Model 52-1 Manual Explanation

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Continuing thread on this 52-1. I noticed that the parts list effective date is July 1 1971. Also in the lower right hand corner back page marked
S&W 3-67. Interesting how this is as the gun came from the original owner and was produced in late '68 early '69 as per serial number and Mr. Jinks. How could the manual be dated after production of the gun????? Check out the pics. Thanks again to all.
 

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My Model 52-1 Serial 103729 shipped October 1970

Im guessing your 52-1 serial 104600 probably shipped sometime after July 1971.
 
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Engine49guy on page 287 of the Standard Catalog of S&W, the 52-1 was produced from 1963-1970. Also on page 401 shows serial numbers starting at A115001-A156801 in 1970. Serial numbers starting with an "A" began in 1970.

Also according to Mr. Jinks as I previously mentioned, the gun was produced in late '68 or early '69. The only thing I can think of, is that the gun was not shipped until 1971. Thus explaining why the parts list effective date is
July 1 1971 which may have been put in the box when shipped.
So you may be right. Strange how S&W would wait that long to ship the gun.
Guess the only way to know for sure is to have it lettered.


My Model 52-1 Serial 103729 shipped October 1970

Im guessing your 52-1 serial 104600 probably shipped sometime after July 1971.
 
Guns don't ship till someone orders them. In addition, they do not ship in serial number order.

Jim
 
Exactly.... A particular models demand affected shipment and production.

Case in point the K-32, nothing "Magic" about that caliber but low demand = lower production numbers than the K-22 and K-38 .

Today those smaller K-32 production numbers result in much higher selling prices despite the fact that .32 S&W long is more expensive than .22 LR and .38 special for plinking and considerably less powerful than .38 special for self defense..
 
ship dates

I have 2 model 41-1's in the 27000 serial # Range, that were shipped months before my model 41-1 in the 22000 range.
There was also a 22 Remington Jet I had lettered, that was shipped 7 years after production was stopped, special ordered and assembled with parts they were able to find.
 
ship dates

I don't think anyone has, I know I have never lettered a single 52-52-2 in my time, having owned over 20 and most NIB.
I have an article on the 52 series pistol written by Gil Hebbard, in this article he used 3-4 model 52 no dash pistols. He noted them by serial number.
If I saw one for sale I would buy it and letter it just for that reason alone.
I have a 52-2 that has a serial # A102xxxA so I knew long ago about the error in the starting period of the A series. Even some of the 5 digit model 41's had an A prefix, that was to designate a duplicate number. After the A prefix started the A suffix designated a duplicate serial #.
 
How could the manual be dated after production of the gun????? Check out the pics. Thanks again to all.

Aside from the other answers above, did you buy the gun used? If so, it's always possible that the previous owner bought the later parts list and united it with the gun, not knowing it was a later parts list?????

Just a thought.
 
I have Model 59 A1705XX that shipped July 15, 1974, and Model 59 A1803Xx that also shipped July 15, 1974. I assumed that Mr. Jinks had made an error in one letter or the other, since both letters were requested and rendered at the SAME time, and the odds that two guns of the SAME model about 10,000 guns apart, acquired by the SAME guy eight years apart (almost to the day), would ship on the SAME day, seem astronomical, but Mr. Jinks maintains that both ship dates are correct per Smith & Wesson records.

Without lettering a particular gun, especially a low production model, the serial number charts are just a general guide. As proved by my Models 59 and the other examples cited above, absent a letter, the charts can be way off for a particular gun. For instance, my Model 59 A1705XX should have shipped in 1971 as an early first year gun according to the charts, but did not ship until three years latter. (The 1974 lettered ship date probably explains why the gun does not have smooth front and back straps as would be expected on such an early serial number. Why the three-year delay in shipping, and apparent building because of the absence of expected features, IS a mystery.)

In addition, I have seen many a gun "package" made up by sellers adding pieces that are not always correct for the ship date of the gun. As SmithNut suggests, that is also a possibility.
 
...it's always possible that the previous owner bought the later parts list and united it with the gun, not knowing it was a later parts list...
I agree, the parts list may have been accidentally switched at some point or replaced for one reason or another. On my "original" 1958 Model 41 in box as described by the owner, the mag and brake have been swapped at some point. The gun is 99.9% however during the small amount of use parts were swapped.
These things happen.
 
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