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Can someone please explain me why exactly the Ohio State University department of public safety needs such a vehicle? :confused:

What will be the next thing? M1A1 Battle tanks for speed traps?

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Retrograde-hundreds will be or are available-as with any conflict, as we pull out-alot of stuff will be sold/given to the civilian market.
 
Ohio State has a strong presence in Vehicle Design. So it's quite possible that it was acquired as a test bed for new doodads that the Military wants OSU to design.

There is also the OSU/U of M feud, which some years can make the Hatfield's and McCoy's seem like pikers. I remember one year back in the 70's when Michigan beat OSU in Columbus that the Columbus PD was called out to quell the riot on High Street and had to use knee knockers to break it up. I had the good sense to stay in the dorm but one room mate wouldn't listen and end up with a technicolor bruise on one thigh that took well over a month to fade away. He also got NO sympathy at all, anytime he started whining about how much it hurt we all pointed out that he wasn't wearing a cup that night and a couple of inches would have cancelled any plans for progeny.
 
Dig that Maxxpro!!! woot I have a few hours in those things.... very very cool trucks.... yeah a bit of overkill, but you get a few gunfighters in there and you can pretty much take care of anyone you need too LOL...

IN all seriousness, I can see the govt needing to rid of these things, and If the university is willing to feed it, it really could make a difference... better than sheltering in place at least....
 
They should of went with the M-ATV! These puppies are fun. (and look awesome):cool:
 

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The wars are almost over. This surplus stuff is going to start showing up all over the country. We got a couple of APC's that we've never used but they are there if we ever need one. They're fun to drive.
 
charlie sherrill said:
The wars are almost over. This surplus stuff is going to start showing up all over the country. We got a couple of APC's that we've never used but they are there if we ever need one. They're fun to drive.
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Yes, they are!
 
One of the problems with acquiring such hardware on the cheap is that it then becomes a " basic need " . Such that other campuses will HAVE to have one to keep up . And when one wears out , another will have to be acquired because ............. just because , it is now part of the 'departmental requirements' and will need to be budgeted in . Look at all the equipment the SWAT teams have now compared to 30 years ago .
One simple question - in all the situations involving robots used to ck suspicious packages for "bombs" - How many have actually turned out to have explosives ? Yet how many police forces have one or more robots ?
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I just don't think a Campus PD requires such heavy equipment. Like georgepittenger said, it creates a need. What will be next and where does it stop? Will they eventually use those trucks for patrols?

The past unfortunately has proven multiple times what happens with militarized law enforcement :( The U.S are not immune against it such things
 
I think it is there to guard the secret stash of ammo that Homeland Security hid there...or,

Mobile Reading And Physics laboratory?
 
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This is bad news anyway you look at it. Did any of these communities or colleges ever think about how are they going to maintain these vehicles? No vehicle lift is going to be able to lift 40,000 lbs. Tires? I know they are bullet proof but what machine can change them? No one will have the machine to do it. What about the windshield? Who is going to replace it when it does get shot at? Will the roads and bridges in the country support the weight of these trucks? If most of these trucks are going to small towns, they most likely will exceed the weight rating of most bridges. So right there maintenance is going to be a huge issue and very costly. Where are they going to get the parts? These are not just Ford F350's with armor, many parts are made specifically for the military. These do not belong on the streets of the U.S..

James
 
That's a big campus, and almost certainly has mutual aid obligations with local LE in addition to their own problems. I suspect that their crime problems are similar to the ones that pervaded my alma later (U/Illinois), and that was a real hole. The crime on campus and in the adjacent areas of the two cities was the highest in the county and among the worst in the state. What amazes me is that a command officer with a campus LE agency actually had the right mindset to realize the potential need in the first place, AND had the ability make the purchase.
 
think of how many college chicks ya could pick up ... err umm .. arrest .. err um .. perhapse either would do ... with a ride like that;)
 
As far as other schools, depts., etc. wanting one also, that's already old news. Been happening for a long time. I live in a small rural town and THEY have a swat team with all the accouterments.
Again, a lot of it is due to having available grants and if you don't use them, they're gone. That's fine but as was mentioned here, many don't consider the consequences of maintenance, upkeep and all. As for bridges not supporting the weight....well heck, they'll just up the taxes and build new ones that will. Unintended consequences. Most of us have to consider them, not the government.
 
The maintain cost of those vehicles are extremely high and can;t be performed by regular mechanics. Even in Afghanistan specialized contractors are working on those vehicles because the mechanics don't have the required knowledge.


Doug M. said:
That's a big campus, and almost certainly has mutual aid obligations with local LE in addition to their own problems. I suspect that their crime problems are similar to the ones that pervaded my alma later (U/Illinois), and that was a real hole. The crime on campus and in the adjacent areas of the two cities was the highest in the county and among the worst in the state. What amazes me is that a command officer with a campus LE agency actually had the right mindset to realize the potential need in the first place, AND had the ability make the purchase.
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And the MRAP will exactly do what against crime? We use those vehicles in Afghanistan with .50 to fight Taliban, now those war machines are supposed to 'fight' crime in our own country?
If the MRAP fails, and with the right mindset the LE agency should get a M1A1?

Or can the MRAP be used to fight evil student protests like the one at Kent State?

I agree that we need heavy equipment if we respond to an extraordinary situation.
I would prefer that LE would obtain such a vehicle from the military for the short period it is really needed and not to play Afghanistan in our own backyards whenever they wish.

Unless of course I have missed that the U.S are a war zone ?
 
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of all the fun in the news .. this one has me thinking the hardest.
Its a whole lot of budget to allocate for a brainfart if it is that ... so it's probably not just some bad idea come to fruitation
Between this and other tidbits of headscratch worthy material... I also recall an oriental proverb, intended as a curse.
"May you live in interesting times, and may you gain recognition of authority"
With the NSA thing .. theres no telling who all has the second part ... but its hard to deny the first
 
Think winter time potholes -- that MRAP will make real potholes. The vehicles electrical system is 24 volt I believe. Getting a new starter when the original failed at -25° F could be an exciting time for Procurement right up until the replacement price is quoted. Does the vehicle have a passenger compartment heater? Engineers can be a real pain.

When Wisconsin Badgers come to town it might be handy, depending on the final score.
 
I asked my son's opinion about this as he spent a tour in Iraq in the top turrent of an MRAP behind a 240 Bravo. I thought his insight might be useful.

His response was "I WANT ONE!" :D

So I guess that settles that. ;)
 
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