MY GARDEN IS PROTECTED !

Drifter is a sniper, no wasted movements. Cud is the poster boy for"looks are deceiving" Must make life on the ranch very exciting [emoji192][emoji250] Jackson and Logan are world's apart in temperament also. Jackson is the perfect well trained gentleman-Logan is a barking crazy ruffian who knows his commands, but applies them sparingly. Logan always wants to play and has that never give up attitude. Jackson looks at him like he's thinking"silly boy". Both are Papillons but that's where the similarity ends. Love them both to the Moon and back! [emoji2][emoji175][emoji175]

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well, i got this cheap , ugly but washable bedspread for my bed.
the kits sleep at the foot of the bed because they like being near to me.
they sleep when i do.
cats that get to rampage around outside during the day are not nocturnal.
in fact, i suspect that drifter denned up nights even before she moved in.
she has a weather proof storm proof coyote proof den outside n she is smart enow to know when coyotes are about.
cats on my toes will be very nice in winter but i was forced into this.
i have no problems with shedding. brushing is a big treat. if i want drifter to come, i hold up the brush n she trots over .
but drifter rolls in the dirt every day, so she wasn't allowed on the bed.

but sometimes i feel like getting purred to sleep, so i pick up the spare cat n bring him to nap with me.
i saw drifter watching this. she didn't say anything but her feelings were hurt.
i can't live with myself allowing cud a privledge that drifter doesn't have.
it's ok to pamper drifter, due to seniority n quality of work, but not vice verse.
this is the problem with loving an animal. i can't stand hurting their feelings.
like, when i'm watching tv n typing here, drifter expects to be between my legs n cud expects to be in my arms.
this is not always convenient, but if i didn't allow this, they would think it a punishment.
i am not capable of hurting someone's feelings for no reason.
 
Susie....

i saw drifter watching this. she didn't say anything but her feelings were hurt.i can't live with myself allowing cud a privledge that drifter doesn't have.it's ok to pamper drifter, due to seniority n quality of work, but not vice verse. this is the problem with loving an animal. i can't stand hurting their feelings.
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That is an excellent observation. Only folks like us, who love cats, probably notice that cats have feelings that can be hurt. They are forgiving, but I'm like you, I just can't stand to hurt their feelings!!

Best Regards, Les
 
Very true... Cats have deep feelings and though they can be stoic about showing them sometimes, they are always there. You found a perfect solution in that bedspread where they can come up and be with you and share their love with you. I miss having cats currently but plan to have them again one day. We had to put our last sweetie, ZZ, to sleep at 21+ years old about a year ago and my husband begged to have time off from having litter boxes for awhile. For many years we had 4 of them with our older Papillon, Jackson. Actually we selected his breed rather than adopting as we always did, to protect the happiness of our little cat herd. A friend of ours had recommended the breed once we had lost our previous dog because of their tendency to love cats. Jackson was a perfect little addition to our cat flock and they loved him from puppy hood on. One day a kitty will find us and we will have them again I'm sure. [emoji250][emoji250]

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it would be nice to have a dog. drifter might accept a teeny one but i don't wanna bring a dog home n find out drifter won't come in the house.
she wouldn't accept other cats when i tried to feed them so accepting a dog is unlikely.
she might try to eat a small dog.
probably best not to try.
this house is pretty full with the current population.
 
I'd say you are doing great with the four legged family you have. Dogs or cats with strong personalities may be tough when it comes to accepting a newcomer of any type. Cud might accept a small dog as a puppy, but it would be hard to predict the way drifter would react. As great as my Jackson was with his Kitty friends, he's never really totally accepted rambunctious Logan who came when Jackson was 8. For one thing, I probably waited too long to get a second puppy. I waited till I had only 2 cats at that point to welcome Logan as a puppy. Earlier, I was working full time, and 4 cats and 2 dogs would have been too much while we were also taking care of my elderly Mom here at home. They get along ok but aren't the close buddies I had hoped would happen.

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tis the season of feral cats.
i talked to the farmer that took 2 kits.

they will come for food, but won't let anyone approach them.
they are alive, so that's good.
they were cuddly to me but met no other humans. my cats respond only to me because i didn't have other humans meet them.
he didn't say where they sleep.
i hope they survive winter.
drifter's kits should manage.
drifter is skating on thin ice.
she has taken to swatting me if i touch her sometimes.
i can see no difference in my touches from when i touch n she doesn't object.
all my touches are loving carresses.
once she actually scratched me.
this has happened 3 times so far.
she has retreated so fast i haven't been able to whack her.
i intend to hurt her when she does this but she knows i'll react so she moves fast.
she is outside now. it's cold.
i may not let her in tonight.
it's interesting that this last try to hurt me
was just a couple hours after she spent an hour between my legs, getting carressed.
i don't understand this behavior but i won't tolerate it.
i would like your thots on this behavior; causes n remedies.
 
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My cat who pretty much only associates with me sometimes does not want bothered and lets me know. Every cat has times and places it doesn't want touched. Think it is normal cat behavior and she is training you. They are tough love animals who do the same to each other from kitten to old age. Doesn't mean anything to them long term.
 
Susie, my wife's recipe for bannock:
preheat oven to 350 degrees

mix ingredients:
2 cups unbleached whole wheat flour
1 tablespoon baking powder
2 teaspoons sugar
1/2 teaspoon salt
1 cup water

Blend dry ingredients thoroughly then add the water
spread dough into greased 8 inch round cast iron skillet
top with 2 tablespoons melted butter or margarine
bake for 20 minutes
 
Maybe it's just the mood she's in at the time you touch her, not the exact way you touch her. Maybe she's focusing on something that you don't realize she is. If you distract her, she gets annoyed and loses track of what she's concentrating on. It might even be a scent she's sensing... Not sure. Some kitties of mine liked to be touched certain ways at different times, different seasons... And others you could turn upside down and they'd purr with delight no matter what. They all have very different purr-sonalities! Meow!!![emoji250][emoji250]

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i want to inflict pain to stop this. one time, for the first time, was claws out n she scratched me good. lots of bleeding.
i won't hit in anger. she is usually nearby n i could kick her thru a wall.
i would never do that.
i need to inflict pain at the exact time of the behavior or it does no good.
nor does holding back treats or anything else.
she is just too fast n she knows me.
i'm not interested in punishment, just training.
 
the bedspread i bot to protect my blankets from dirty drifter is working,
but it has unexpected uses.
cud gets under it n has a good time playing around.
then, he goes to sleep in his tent.
when they sleep with me, their personalities really show up.
drifter trusts me. when she sleeps between my legs she seems totally relaxed.
but, at the slightest strange noise, drifter is flying thru the air. she land son the floor, ready to fight or flee.
this happens so fast i think she doesn't wake til she;s in the air.
cuddles, on the other hand, needs a brass band to wake him. n when he wakes he just yawns n stretches.
note that i said brass band, not a gunfight,
gunfire doesn;t disturb him.
i i fire a round outside, he comes over to see whats happening.
he eventually leaves if i keep shooting.
i have proved gunfire is not painful to cats.
he has heard it every sunday of his life.


cud couldn't escape danger when sleeping anyway.
he is a mutant.
when asleep in my arms, his bones melt.
i could wear him as a stole, or tie him in a knot..
 
I wonder what Cud's Daddy has for a personality? Probably more like him, if personality is inherited rather than being a matter of environment and nurture. Hopefully cud will survive the predators even though he's not as"street-smart" as drifter. Maybe he's just a lover rather than a fighter (lol) Hopefully he will earn his keep as he matures and gets those mice and evil bunnies away from your yummy figs [emoji4][emoji242][emoji235]

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clearly, some traits are inherited.
cud n his twin were more loving than the other guys.
but, indifference to danger is all environmental.

cud has been taken care of every day of his life.
this house is his universe.
his twin is now semi feral.
that;s sad but there's nothing i can do about that.
 
Hi Susie,

As I wrote a number of pages back, our feral (semi-feral?) cat named Sassy is doing well. Been with us almost a year now. He truly understands the word 'treat'.:D. It is very strange for a feral cat to be this cuddly but he literally wants attention every moment he is awake. He is very respectful to our home (has claws we trim but doesn't scratch up wood work in our home). He likes to play a lot, being from outdoors to indoors I am sure is a bit slower paced. He is an older boy, about 14 years old we think. The only times he gets a little worked up is at sunset and at day break--we think this is when he primarily hunted, because otherwise he sleeps all day. Heck, he sleeps most of the night too, but is more active.

We are so impressed with how he has adapted. When we got him, I called him into our house one cold December night when temperatures were around negative 10 degree and wind. My wife went to answer the door holding him the other day (he is such a baby and loves to be held) and he was worried he was going outside, poor kid. He will not chew on anything scratch any furniture (other than MY chair) and is so well behaved overall.

He likes treats. Did I mention that?:D;):)
 
yeah, hob. i remember the kitty that came in out of the cold.
he is more proof that feral cats get lonely.
as well adapted as they are to life in the wild, they prefer life with humans.
it is not at all a matter of free food.
they want company.
 
My one cat, Blue, used to give me little "love: bites sometimes when I was petting her. I would immediately stop petting her and a couple times gave her a light slap. Not stupid and likes being petted. She might put her teeth on me but, no bites of scratches. I have to think light biting and sticking claws on you is some kind of affection thing for cats even if we don't like it.

My other cat Cry Baby is a stone cold killer. Constantly bringing in birds and mice, often still very much alive, to play with and kill in the bathroom. Really upsets the wife. Weird cat, constantly gives little mews, like begging for attention, but, continues even while being petted. Pretty much has her banned frrom the bedroom because of her noises, which she sometimes does in the middle of the night.
 
steel, have you posted pics of your guys?
i don't remember.
i really don't think claws out is a sign of affection,
at least once i saw a look of irritation on her face when she did it.
drifter bite me once. i bopped her on her nose.
she has never done it again.
i finally was fast enow to retaliate when drifter scratched me.
let's see if that stops the behavior.
this clawing is a new behavior.
she used to bat my hand, but that was claws in.
i had no problem with that.
if she could spend more than 12 months without clawing me, she can learn to go back to that.
 
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