My wife doesn't want her CC permit, but I think she almost has to get it.

[Lost Lake]

Yesterday my wife took my truck while I took her car to the body shop to have a dent looked at. Her car is a Honda while my truck is a sort of hopped up diesel work truck. So of course I asked how she liked driving it.

She said it was weird having guns stashed inside.

That's when I realized if she were stopped she would have been in big trouble.

So I think even if she doesn't want to carry a gun, she should at least have her permit just in case....

 

[silentflyer]

Get a woman to do something she really doesn't want to do? Good luck with that one...or at least that's been my experience over the years...life is too short to pick those battles..if you do and win, you are a better man than I..

 

[rondo]

^ What he said.

 

[jlrhiner]

Well, mom does occasionally carry, but the main reason she got hers was so if we were out, and something happened, she could legally take possession of mine. That way I don't have to worry about an outsider getting ahold of it.

 

[rilkil23]

Took a while but my wife decided to go ahead and get hers because all the violence on the local news. She loves her pistol but won't go near my AR and hates the shotguns, she will let me know when she is ready to handle the long guns but it will have to be her doing. Certainly understand the legal issue you're facing.

 

[tomcatt51]

Yesterday my wife took my truck

she said it was weird having guns stashed inside.

That's when I realized if she were stopped she would have been in big trouble.

Very good reason for her to get a license. Explain the reasoning just like you posted it.

 

[StatesRightist]

Very good reason for her to get a license. Explain the reasoning just like you posted it.

The other thing I did was make sure I pointed out all of the crime on the news, read armed citizen etc to my wife.

Took about a year, now she has a J frame w/ CT grips, a Kimber pepper blaster and a few other goodies with her every place she goes.

DO NOT push, educate. Good luck bud.

 

[ogilvyspecial]

I don't know if my wife would have ever got one herself if not for the fact that I had a friend who came over and did a class at our house when Michigan started issuing back in 2001.

I got about a dozen people to sign up for the class but my wife didn't want to do it, giving no good reason, and I just left it at that.

The day of the class she was here, made coffee for the group, was in & out of the room all day, so she got a feel for what it was. After everybody left she said, "I should have done that." I asked, do you want to? She said yes so I put togther about a dozen more and we had another class that very next weekend. For that class I was the hostess.

While we were waiting on our permits I bought every book I could find on citizens who had used a gun in a life threatening situation and she read all of them, eagerly I might add.

When she was all done with the books I asked her if she had learned anything. Her response told me she had.
She said, "I learned that anything, can happen to anybody, at any place and at any time and when it does, you better be ready for it yourself because there might not be anybody else around to save you."

She got it, bless her little heart!

P.S. Up until that point in her life she had fired a gun, any gun, no more than a dozen times.

 

[Chuck1217]

My wife actually wants to get hers, and I arranged to kave her and 7 lady-friends from our church take the course. Instructor agreed he would teach a minimum of 8 women for $80 each. She got 11, but only 3 could agree on any single date. the wife is really involved with our church but does want to get hers, it's a time thing. in the meantime, thank God we live in SC. She can carry in the car without a permit. Has to be concealed, but she has a console and a glovebox, and keeps her pocket-pistol in a little bag with a tact. flashlight- and another flashlight out in the open. She used to hunt and knows how to handle guns, so I feel better knowing she won't have to throw a rock.
Speaking of flashlights, I've told this before but since we're speaking about the women-folk: Guy's wife had a pseudo- stalker, so he strated picking her up at work (she got off at 11 pm) and after a week or so, he actually saw the (possibly homeless ) guy start walking towards her. He shined the really strong tact. light in his face and he turned around a walked away. The husband was armed, but luckily the light was enough. So now my wife stays armed with the bright light.

 

[venomballistics]

I'd float the idea past her after a few trips to the range to get her more comfortable with guns.
it would keep her out of a jam in those exceptions like you stated.
later on, with more range sessions and more comfort with arms ... and all the interesting news on TV .. ya might end up parting with a compact 40 when she gets usin' it

 

[Lost Lake]

I should have told you guys I met my wife in the army.

But she couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with her M16. We worked on that forever. I finally had to cheat to get her to pass her qualifications. After we got out she would deer hunt with me and was a rather good shot with a scope. She's not real big on handguns though and thinks carrying one is a hassle.

I'll ease her into a few outings with the kids and I and give her a .22 pistol to shoot with then let her shoot a 9 or .38. She keeps a 9 or .40 on the nightstand when I am away from home (at my insistence) but I know she isn't as comfortable as I want her to be.

That is an excellent point about having my wife take possession of my carry piece if necessary. Such as if I were admitted to a hospital, or maybe had a couple of drinks and couldn't carry a weapon. Then we could put it in the car and she would be the legal operator of the weapon.

 

[amazingflapjack]

motive-expectation...

Step outside the box and look at her situation from her prospective; ask her questions in a non-confrontational way that shows that you want to know what her views on gun carry, etc-are; not "why she don't or won't do what you want her to do."

Look at your own motives, and expectations; is this somethoing you want her to do for you to help you avoid a hassel? If you are interested in her well being, make that case. If she is uncomfortable with CC, get her something with gas (not you!), like a Kimber life act. She will either be good with that, or it could be a bridge to a purse gun, but all pushing will do is push her away-from you, if not the whole concept. That's what I would do, but you are the man in her life-go unselfishly.

 

[tomcatt51]

Then we could put it in the car and she would be the legal operator of the weapon.

That was my point as to why she should get a permit. It had nothing to do with her actually carrying (or even wanting to carry), just not running afoul of the law getting into your vehicle with a gun inside or simply being able to take your gun and drop it into her purse if need be. There are hassles and possible legal issues her having a license would eliminate.

 

[papajohn428]

She said, "I learned that anything, can happen to anybody, at any place and at any time and when it does, you better be ready for it yourself because there might not be anybody else around to save you."

She got it, bless her little heart!

P.S. Up until that point in her life she had fired a gun, any gun, no more than a dozen times.

I worked with my last girlfriend for four years on the whole self-defense thing, but she liked her world better than mine, and did her best to ignore me. She wanted to assume that I (or somebody) would always be there to protect her. She knew it wasn't true, but my reality-based version of life was too gritty and scary for her. So she stuck with denial.

I'd have given ANYTHING to hear her say the words your wife did. You must have done everything right!

 

[ogilvyspecial]

I worked with my last girlfriend for four years on the whole self-defense thing, but she liked her world better than mine, and did her best to ignore me. She wanted to assume that I (or somebody) would always be there to protect her. She knew it wasn't true, but my reality-based version of life was too gritty and scary for her. So she stuck with denial.

I'd have given ANYTHING to hear her say the words your wife did. You must have done everything right!

I would like to take the credit John, I surely would, but I just planted the seeds.
She watered & nutured them until they bloomed.

I will say this, when I heard her tell me what she had learned I was
speechless and had to gather my thoughts before telling her, good for you!

She also said something that took me aback, but this was months later.
She was struggling with accurate double action shooting and one day, after she had
watched some Point Shooting DVD's I have, I said, ok, let's see how you do Point Shooting.

She did a few dry runs, step, crouch, pump handle arm raise, then moved on to live fire.
After putting the first cylinder full in a neat group right in center mass she turned & said
"Why didn't you show me this before?" I said, "Everybody should have good fundamental
skills in accurate sighted fire so that's what we've been working on building. A good base."

Her response is what took me aback, she said
"If a bad guy is so far away that I have to use the sights
to hit them then maybe I shouldn't be shooting them anyway.
Maybe it would be better if I just got the heck out of there."

That day she was doing so good point shooting that she was calling her shots,
head, body, pelvis, it was definitely a turning point in building her confidence.
Since that day she has worked a lot on her sighted fire and she's improved dramatically.
The boost in her confidence that day really made a difference.

 

[oldman45]

Question: Do you have to have a permit if you have firearms in your vehicle?

If so, you guys ought to move to Louisiana. Now I feel good about our gun laws.

We can carry openly and so can anyone visiting in the state.
We can have guns in a vehicle without having to have a permit and so can anyone visiting in the state. It would be difficult to find a car in Louisiana that does not have at least one gun inside and those guns are going to be loaded.

If one carries concealed with a permit and prints or accidentally shows, there is no problem.

No papers are required to purchase guns in Louisiana. You see a gun in a store you like, just hand the money over, fill out the Federal form and walk out with your gun.

 

[jlrhiner]

That basically describes Missouri, too. My issue is for myself, 3strokes, 4 surgeries (including a bi-lateral knee replacement that did not go as planned). If I should fall, people would have to help me up. I'd rather her be able to hold it then someone "find" it during the process. Just makes sense.

 

[rebs081]

Not sure if it was mentioned before but here in NY If you were to pass away, she would need a permit to keep your hand guns, she could then sell them or pass them along to a son or someone close that wants them. Someone besides you has to have a permit. With no one else having a permit the guns must be turned into your local police dept and held there until someone with a valid permit can get them back.
I know of a case where a guys guns were turned in to the police dept and when trying to retrieve them some of them couldn't be found, they mysteriously vanished from the police dept. I guess they were lost or misplaced. lol

 

[Strato]

Here in Florida you don't need a permit to take possession or have guns in your home or car. A permit is only required for concealed carry and it waives the 3 day waiting period on purchases. Open carry is not allowed here with just a few exceptions. One of them being while fishing. I recently had a conversation with a state wildlife officer who cleared that up for me. He said as long as you were fishing you can openly wear a sidearm with or without a cwp but if you pick up a flashlight or spotlight while carrying open on the lake you could be accused of gator hunting.

 

[Rangerpat]

Strato,
Does that mean if you DO have a CWP you can pick up a flashlight?
I have been given different answers to the same question depending on the location I was in Florida.