New LEO Service Revolver

[PALADIN85020]

I really think that the original Model 67 was the apex of .38 special service revolvers. Perfect weight for carrying, accurate, sights adjustable for precision shots, stainless for durability. Pull the trigger six times and you will get six shots fired. +P ammo would be no problem. Look, ma - no ugly hole!

John

Model 67-1, from April 1978:

 

[theprincipal]

I don't have too much experience with revolvers, but I would certainly be happy with my model 19 classic.

 

[snowman.45]

I'm curious about your reasons for selecting the 627 over the 686 if hand size allows it.

The only reason I would choose the 627 over the 686+ would be for the 8 round capacity. Aside from that. the 686 would be my preference every time.

 

[Triggernosis]

Kimber K6S DASA Combat revolver.

 

[S&WshooterFIN]

I'd ask them to crank me out a batch of 681's.

681 seven shot.

 

[Darkenfast]

681 seven shot.

They've made that. It was called the 619. Came out at the same time as the 620 (686+, but with a Model 66-type barrel).

Edit to correct myself: The 619 had a barrel without an ejector-rod shroud, while the 681 had the shrouded style.

 

[shocker]

No votes for the SAA?

 

[BoulderTroll]

At typical gunfight distances you are never going to be using sights anyway, especially for the first shot.

True for typical gunfight distances...

...But if you happen to be Senior Airman Andrew Brown, and have to take a headshot on a guy with a rifle at 70 yards, and you only have your pistol, sights come in handy. He hit a dude armed with a MAK-90 at 70 yards between the eyes with his M9.

 

[BoulderTroll]

Where exactly were you a Police Officer?...

I worked in Transit as well as above ground in the NYPD and can tell you our firearms "broke leather" almost daily.

Wow, I gotta second this... I don't work in a big agency, or even an exceptionally high crime area, and needing to draw your weapon is a fairly regular occurrence here. At least a couple times a week on average.

 

[ruger 22]

I like the model 10 series or the SS version. I do not like the fully encased ejector rod of the model 19 or 586/686 for duty guns because they not only add weight but also become a problem if they get dirt and other **** into them --will not be able to close the cylinder during a gunfight w/o cleaning them out and lose valuable time.

 

[k22fan]

No votes for the SAA?

Let them go DA with a Merwin Hulbert.

Actually, for as long as its six shots last, a Ruger Old Army percussion SA is a lot more gun than most of the smaller modern pocket handguns.

 

[JamesWP]

I like the model 10 series or the SS version. I do not like the fully encased ejector rod of the model 19 or 586/686 for duty guns because they not only add weight but also become a problem if they get dirt and other **** into them --will not be able to close the cylinder during a gunfight w/o cleaning them out and lose valuable time.

That's an interesting take. I always thought for police work a shroud would be better in case something happens in a struggle and the ejector rod gets bent and then the cylinder won't rotate. That isn't as likely with the shroud.

 

[transit]

I like the model 10 series or the SS version. I do not like the fully encased ejector rod of the model 19 or 586/686 for duty guns because they not only add weight but also become a problem if they get dirt and other **** into them --will not be able to close the cylinder during a gunfight w/o cleaning them out and lose valuable time.

Agreed. I think the shrouds become far more about the look than the function.

Once you get past that, you like the old school much better.

At the time, I seriously preferred my (Gen 2) '73 Colt Detective Special.

Today?

After carrying guns for decades, I'd take my buddies' "Noir" '32 in a heartbeat.

 

[mscampbell2734]

I like the model 10 series or the SS version. I do not like the fully encased ejector rod of the model 19 or 586/686 for duty guns because they not only add weight but also become a problem if they get dirt and other **** into them --will not be able to close the cylinder during a gunfight w/o cleaning them out and lose valuable time.

I've got to disagree with this line of thought. The only way dirt/debris could get into the groove of a enclosed ejection rod housing would be to drop the gun while the cylinder is out. A truly unlikely occurrence.

What a enclosed housing DOES is protect the ejection rod in the event the barrel is used as a sap, which back in the heyday of the revolver at my department WAS a not uncommon occurrence. Extra heavy barrels were routinely fitted both for accuracy, we shot out to 50 yards, but also for a little more muzzle weight when "persuading" an uncooperative suspect into cuffs.

 

[riverrat38]

I've got to disagree with this line of thought. The only way dirt/debris could get into the groove of a enclosed ejection rod housing would be to drop the gun while the cylinder is out. A truly unlikely occurrence.

What a enclosed housing DOES is protect the ejection rod in the event the barrel is used as a sap, which back in the heyday of the revolver at my department WAS a not uncommon occurrence. Extra heavy barrels were routinely fitted both for accuracy, we shot out to 50 yards, but also for a little more muzzle weight when "persuading" an uncooperative suspect into cuffs.

When Bill Jorden was discussing the design of the new M19 with S&W engineers, he suggested making the trigger guard stronger in case someone "accidentally" bumped their head on it.

73,
Rick

 

[Darkenfast]

Okay, let me ask this: does anyone know of a case where an ejector rod on a Smith and Wesson (or other design that had the muzzle end of the rod secured the way S&Ws do), was bent enough, while the cylinder was closed, to render the gun unusable? You would have to be REALLY unlucky, because of the angle between the forward end of the frame and the barrel.

 

[s2harry]

386

How about the 386 Nightguard, Light good sights, 7 shot.

 

[6518John]

...But if you happen to be Senior Airman Andrew Brown, and have to take a headshot on a guy with a rifle at 70 yards, and you only have your pistol, sights come in handy. He hit a dude armed with a MAK-90 at 70 yards between the eyes with his M9.

This story is even more amazing in that Senior Airman Brown was on a bicycle patrol and peddled a quarter of a mile to the scene before confronting the gunman. He also hit the gunman in the shoulder as well as between the eyes.

Meanwhile, Senior Airman Andrew P. Brown, age 25, with the 92nd Air Force Security Police Squadron, was patrolling the base's housing areas on a bicycle when he received an emergency call on his two-way radio. He pedaled a quarter-mile to the scene and, while still some 70 yards away, spotted Mellberg shooting at scores of panic-stricken people in the parking lot.
Brown ditched his bicycle and ordered the gunman to drop his weapon. When Mellberg turned and shot at him, Brown dropped into a combat crouch and returned fire with his 9mm Beretta M9 semiautomatic pistol. He fired four rounds at Mellberg; two missed, one hit him in the shoulder and one struck him between the eyes, instantly ending his homicidal rampage. The drum magazine in Mellberg's MAK-90 still held 19 rounds of ammunition

 

[Old cop]

Over the course of my 30 year career I carried a Colt OP, Smith Model 10, Model 15 & Model 64. Any of them would be fine but I don't believe the Colt is manufactured anymore.

 

[rich5674]

Round butt works fine

Probably the 7 shot 686, 4 inch barrel. Having that extra shot is worth the extra weight of an L frame over a K, at least to me. I'd like an 8 shot 627, but a lot of folks with normal to small hands have a hard time getting a good grip for DA shooting with the N frame.

Larry

If a 8 shot L Frame is a choice, the round but grips will work for smaller hands