Kenneth07ex
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Sent my revolver back for warranty work. The factory decided it was cheaper to replace it. Since it's a new gun...won't there be a background check? Along with transfer fee?
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They always ship them back to my door. You gotta sign for it thou.
A new gun requires a new 4473. Different serial number. But they should cover the FFL fee, as I see it.
Warranty work where the frame / serialized part does not change would come back to the address it left from. My LGS does require a new 4473 if they handle the shipping, but they don't charge in that circumstance.
Warranty work where the frame / serialized part does not change would come back to the address it left from. My LGS does require a new 4473 if they handle the shipping, but they don't charge in that circumstance.
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Kenneth07ex
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It is definitely a totally brand new gun. I used the local guy, because the drop off to send it in is a eighty mile round trip. And the required pick up signature could be problematic, as we're rural, and work. So we might not be home to sign. That would require more logistical problems. But being totally different serial number, wouldn't it need a nics check?
RGVshooter
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I guess that depends on how they ship it... I'm in a similar boat. I won't be home when my pistol gets shipped back so I told them to send it to my FFL. Now I'm wondering if I have to do another 4473 or not because they're sending it to my LGS instead of my home?. Same gun, same serial # in my situation. I just sent it out for warranty repair.
When Ruger replaced one of my .44s, it went through the local gunshop.
No 4473/NICS needed when returning a repaired firearm... or a replacement firearm for an unable to be repaired gun... back to the original customer.
The replacement can go right back to the customer.
The Factory or the FFL Gunsmith will show in their bound book that the orig firearm was replaced and with what,,the make, model, ser#'s ect logged.
The customer already legally owned the orig firearm when he/she sent it in. It was sent in for repair,,not for sale/consignment.
No transfer of ownership,,just replacement.
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The replacement can go right back to the customer.
The Factory or the FFL Gunsmith will show in their bound book that the orig firearm was replaced and with what,,the make, model, ser#'s ect logged.
The customer already legally owned the orig firearm when he/she sent it in. It was sent in for repair,,not for sale/consignment.
No transfer of ownership,,just replacement.
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But the discussion is kind of "muddled"
If the replacement firearm goes back to a LICENSEE (aka FFL)
Not, shipped back to a non licensed individual aka, the persons home
So the OP is having it sent to his FFL, so no 4473 is needed, But I have seen FFL's squawk on this so don't fight over it pay the $5 if needed and move on
(happened to me on a REPAIR)
If the replacement firearm goes back to a LICENSEE (aka FFL)
Not, shipped back to a non licensed individual aka, the persons home
So the OP is having it sent to his FFL, so no 4473 is needed, But I have seen FFL's squawk on this so don't fight over it pay the $5 if needed and move on
(happened to me on a REPAIR)
I could be wrong, but I think the replacement weapon may have the same Ser # as the original gun, and original gun will be destroyed.
twodog max
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Many years ago I had a Ruger Mark I I sent back to Ruger. They notified me it was unrepairable and they were making another with the same serial number and destroying the original. They sent it directly back to me. This was a long time ago however. Laws change.
I shipped a pistol to S&W last year for repair. FedEx picked it up at my house. It was deemed irretrievably broken. I picked out what I wanted from a list, and they asked what FFL I wanted it shipped to. My FFL doesn't charge me for transfers. Very simple process. I wasn't going to get in an argument with the fella' holding my pistol while I told him he might be doing it wrong. Kinda like not doing what TSA tells you when you're flying with a pistol, even if the printed rules in your hand say something different . . .
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Kenneth07ex
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It went through my lgs, and there was not a need for the 4473. Apparently, the ffl does have to keep a record, but there was no paperwork on my end. Just a couple of signatures, and I was on my way. I was concerned, because it all just seemed too easy. And I didn't want any issues to pop up in a couple of weeks, after someone figured out a mistake had been made.
If you read post #9 you will find out you are incorrect.
wingriderz
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What kind and model
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Kenneth07ex
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It's a 3 inch Ruger sp101 in .327 federal magnum. The fit and finish on this little gun isn't great. If I had paid the over seven hundred bucks MSRP, I would've been unhappy. It works just fine, but looks like the hammer wants to ride against the left side of the frame. I've never been a fan of the brushed stainless finish that Ruger uses on these, and this example is rougher than my other one. If I'm keeping score on the money invested so far, I'm all in at about three fifty, so no big investment. It was always about carrying, and never about collecting, with this little gun. But I'll probably be sending this thing back eventually, because of the hammer.
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About every Ruger revolver made does that (hammer on side of frame) It is not really an issue and can be easily "fixed" if it really bothers you,(shims)
Rugers are very easy to fluff and buff, change springs etc.
Doug M.
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I can't have anything shipped to my house because of being at work, and due to the fencing that keeps people away from my door. I would not do it anyway because of the security issues, regardless if it gun stuff or dog food. Everything is either shipped to my PO's street address (we have not used a street address in over 30 years - PO Boxes only) or to my office.
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