New S&W M&P 340, need advice

[kaaskop49]

Ya that.^^^

The GD Short Barrel 135gr .357 is what I carry in my 340PD and it's the best compromise in power and controllability for me. I use Barami hip grips with a Tyler T-grip, then wrapped in rubber bands for the most comfortable grip I've ever tried on a J-mag.

Wow, that's some grip. I've often said snubs are the most personal (and personalized) of handguns. Here is an example. Good job, friend.

Kaaskop49
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[elm_creek_smith]

I posted this question on another thread and I would like to repeat it here. Comparing the felt recoil between a 110 gr .357 and the Speer Gold Dot sb .357. The Remington 110 grain is rated at 1295 FPS/410 ft lbs. The Gold Dots are rated at 990/294. I found the 110 gr rounds noticeably softer shooting and I'm using that as my primary carry now in the 340. With the Gold Dots having more felt recoil but lower speed and energy why do they feel hotter. The weight difference(110 vs. 135)? Or is it possible Speer is loading it a bit hotter than they put out? I have carried Speer 135 +P's for years in my 640 and they also feel pretty snappy. Anybody?

You're shooting a projectile that is roughly 23% heavier. Recoil (momentum) is calculated by multiplying mass (bullet weight) times the velocity. Energy is mass times the square of the velocity. Slow heavy bullets will almost always have more recoil than fast light bullets.

Also, I doubt the 110 grain .357 Magnum is going 1295 fps out of a snubbie.

 

[mj2008]

I found the GD 357 def had a bit more lift. Same bullet as the .38 +p as far as I know. The specs seem "light" for a .357. It would make sense that they are giving specs for a 2" barrel as it's supposed to be a sb round. I have no idea what Remington or Winchester use for their 110 gr. Either Gold Dots or 110 mags would be a good defensive round. For now I'm going to stick with the Remington. It shoots good for me and and it has a good track record for results. From what I have read online here on this forum and also at another forum the 340's in either version are very popular. I was reading last night about the 386 Night Guard and I watched a few videos. What a great looking revolver. I like that it it also was a 7 shooter. Good weight too. Compared to my Model 19 or a 686 it was good to go as far as carry weight. Why did Smith discontinue them? I would have to guess they weren't selling but I can't see why not. Nice sights, same finish as the 340, good caliber and from what I read a good trigger pull.

 

[OMCHamlin]

Omchamlin, I would keep that 640 if you can. Great revolver. I still carry mine sometimes. It was my off duty and it's as tight as ever. The trigger is smooth as glass after many years and many rounds. My 340 will take a lot more rounds to catch up.

I actually might end up keeping it. Once upon a time we would take Sub School officer students out to our range and let them shoot the old Navy course with 45's to try and qualify for a ribbon. Afterwards, we would stay and shoot a little bit, my good friend and crusty old CWO4 bet me a soda that I couldn't even shoot a qualifying score with that 640. Even with him egging me on, I still used it to shoot Expert ribbon with it, a 2" DAO snubby! It does not get carried anymore, it sits in a side table with a odd little flashlight grip attached, which looks hideous, but works like a champ. I noticed that DeSantis makes a "Hip-Grip" type grip for the J frame, might be worth a look... Whil;e at the Hampton gun show this weekend, I picked up a box of Cor-Bon 110 gr 357s to try in this little pocket rocket, we'll see...

 

[mj2008]

Those Corbons look hot. Should be fun. I shot some Gold Dot 125 gr a couple of weeks ago in my 340. My buddy said he could feel them standing several feet away from me. Lol. No I don't carry them but I figured I just had to try them once. You know it's good to have an extra handgun. You never know when one you use more will need some service by a gunsmith.

 

[kaaskop49]

attn OMC...

Save your $. Those De Santis hip grip knock-offs are standard on my 637 Wyatts. I've removed them. They do not tighten enough; the grip wobbles on the frame. They are slippery in the hand and the "shelf" is not long enough to be secure in the waistband. Really not worth $30 IMO.

Kaaskop49
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[OMCHamlin]

Save your $. Those De Santis hip grip knock-offs are standard on my 637 Wyatts. I've removed them. They do not tighten enough; the grip wobbles on the frame. They are slippery in the hand and the "shelf" is not long enough to be secure in the waistband. Really not worth $30 IMO.

Kaaskop49
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Oops, I just pulled the trigger on them, oh well, if so, I do have a drawer full of grips, it can take one more...

 

[alexrex20]

The Baramis really need a Tyler T-grip. Otherwise the grip is just too small. It's also pretty slippery like someone mentioned but that's easily fixed with bicycle inner tube or rubber bands.