Newest Caliber Ever?

[gto364ci]

The first pistol with the first caliber specifically for carry?

13458 - SMITH SHIELD EZ 30 SUPER CARRY 10RD W SAFETY BLACK

Product Description

Smith & Wesson is excited to introduce ytheir S&W® Shield™ EZ® in a new caliber! Offering the Shield EZ chambered in Federal® 30 Super Carry™ the Shield EZ pistol features an 10+1 round capacity and a 3.675" barrel, ships with two 10 round magazines that feature a load assist tab for quick, easy loading, as well as a picatinny-style equipment rail to accommodate accessories. The pistol also features an optimal M&P pistol 18-degree grip angle for a natural point of aim, white-dot front and adjustable white-dot rear sights, and a light, crisp trigger!

 

[malph]

Higher capacity than .380 version. Perhaps they are attempting to get more performance than a .380 in a thinner cartridge which would allow for more cartridges in the same sized grip.

Odds are always stacked against new handgun cartridges but I think the idea has merit.

Obviously this is all just a guess.

I imagine we will hear more at SHOT.

 

[s&wchad]

How many years before they expect ammunition to hit the shelves?

Manufacturers have been running 24/7 trying to meet demand for poplar calibers. Seems like poor timing for a new small bore cartridge.

 

[diyj98]

I predict the 30 Super Carry will someday be as big as the 45 GAP!

 

[Bullet Bob]

Very interesting. I just gave away some .30 Luger to stop myself from buying another gun in that caliber.

The more, the merrier.

 

[malph]

Lol. As I said, odds are always stacked against a new cartridge, even when it has merit.

 

[steelslaver]

What a semi auto 327mag type round.

Just what are the ballistics on this wonder round.

 

[Piwo]

Probably a rehash of the 30 French/ 30 Pederson round. We all know what happened to them! Nothing new under the sun.

 

[ImDrRich]

I honestly don't understand why manufacturers attempt to do this.

 

[Truckman]

I always liked .30 Luger...But when it was upsized to 9MM, the new caliber overshadowed the parent cartridge......Ben

 

[malph]

We are a conservative group here on this forum.

75% of us just wish they would make more revolvers without the lock.

The use case for the equivalent of a .327mag designed for semiautomatics are guns the size of the Ruger LCP Max.

More rounds and more performance in the same sized package.

We live in the age, like it or not, where manufacturers are competing on how many bullets they can stuff in their guns.

This should, if I have it right, allow them to stuff more bullets in a small gun while exceeding performance of the .380.

Odds are against it gaining traction but it's a good idea. It has a chance.

I would not be surprised is Smith releases an LCP Max sized gun in this chambering soon.

 

[jurek]

I'm hoping S&W did research before making this pistol. Otherwise why would they make pistol chambered with twice more expensive ammo than 9mm.
On the other hand, when I looked at the specification... that might be a easiest shooter ever made:

- Chamber Length: 0 in
- Minimum Pull Length: 0 in



I'm guessing it's just typo.. but who knows?

 

[glenwolde]

There's nothing else on this anywhere I can find. Odd. What's the source for your post?

I thought maybe it was April 1st .....

Edit: The more I search, the more I think this is Bogus.

 

[Telecaster]

Yaay, now it's 9 vs 45 vs 40 vs 10 vs 30 Super vs...

I'd try one just for grins, but I don't feel like buying a Shield Eee Zee, or investing in an unobtainable caliber.

 

[malph]

Might not be a typo.

Pathfinder Militaria | Fed Ammo Ae 30 Super Carry - Default Store View

 

[Jim Watson]

Thinking with glenwolde, but if so, there are a couple of dealers who have fallen for it.
Smith & Wesson M&P Shield EZ M2.0 30 Super Carry 10rd w/ Safety Black

Nothing on S&W or Federal www. Dealer listings for ammo have .30-06 mixed into the description.

 

[Tom K]

I'm guessing probably closer to .32H&R than .327 ballistics.

 

[Longone]

Where are they hiding the extractor? Some new caseless ammo? IDK

 

[ken158]

Just what we need now in the middle of an ammo crunch… Another caliber you cant find and if you do, it will be a buck a round. No thanks.

 

[malph]

Davidsons is listing it as well.

 

[Longone]

Pathfinder Militaria | Fed Ammo Ae 30 Super Carry - Default Store View
These folks have a price for ammo they don't have. Never heard of them or dealt with them.

 

[keithhagan]

Probably a rehash of the 30 French/ 30 Pederson round. We all know what happened to them! Nothing new under the sun.

Really hoping this is the case.

I could see it being any one of the following:

-extra high-pressue version of 32 ACP mimicking the 38 ACP vs 38 super (if built on the 380 ACP version of the shield ez)
-32 French reboot possibly with slightly longer/shorter case dimension just cause (if built on the 9mm version of the shield ez)
-40 SW/357 Sig necked down to .30 or .32 caliber (mimicking the 40 super being a necked down 45 ACP)

 

[glenwolde]

I found the source...

S&W SHIELD EZ 30 SUPER CARRY BLACKENED SS/BLK THUMB SAFETY

 

[reddog81]

It'll probably be officially announced in a day or 2. Distributers, Wholesalers, Retailers, etc have to be ready for demand once the product is released. Sometimes people start updating their websites with new product pages before the official announcement happens.

Same thing happened with the new S&W 10mm guns.

FWIW I'd be surprised if there's much demand for it... unless they can get a bunch of ammo on the shelves. However, now would be a decent time to introduce a new caliber if you have ammo ready to sell. You can buy this new 30 Super carry and a couple boxes of ammo or a new .380 and no boxes of ammo.

 

[robertrwalsh]

Remind me, how did the .35 auto work out?

 

[malph]

Remind me, how did the .35 auto work out?

You realize that was in 1912, right?

Other new cartridges they've tried within the last 35 years would include the .356tsw. 500 S&W and .460 S&W.

The .356tsw was a good idea but ultimately failed.

 

[ISCS Yoda]

If this was April 1st I'd have taken the OP's post as a joke but I guess it's real from what I see. I'm a Luddite and certainly don't need such a caliber but for the massive number of new gun buyers out there maybe this will be much appreciated. Time will tell.

 

[Telecaster]

This cartridge might be fun in a carbine.

 

[malph]

Can a six-shot J-frame clambered in this cartridge be far behind? Or maybe a nine-shot N-frame for the competition crowd?

 

[mauser9]

We"ll see if the 9MM luger eats this one alive also.