No civilians need a AR15

[Benton Quest]

Meh....I could care less about it being full-auto. It's been a while since any top tier fighters used full-auto. It's mostly a Hollywood thing...I can't imagine a circumstance when I would flip an M4 to F/A. Belt-feds, different story. Other than that, give me semi every single day.

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[robvious]

the giggle switch is fun.. but mostly useless in most situations... smallarms FA just attracts fire from big stuff.. don't send that invitation..

 

[Kevin J.]

Keep your M16. I prefer an M60.

Old school M60….the "pig".

 

[coltle6920]

I'd be happy if they just got rid of the ban on hi-capacity mags.

 

[pharmer]

I'd be happy if they just got rid of the ban on hi-capacity mags.

El Paso County doesn't have one. Unfortunately for Colorado 60% of the population lives in the Denver-Boulder corridor. Causes similar problems NYC causes folks in NY state. Joe

 

[Llance]

WWIII may be fought with missiles and airplanes and if it comes about WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones. DR. Einstein

 

[Beemerguy53]

I took these photos at a gun shop in Lucerne, Switzerland, back in 2003. That customer is holding his issued STG-90 rifle...

 

[irish132]

This is what our founders meant by "well regulated militia". Regulated meaning well trained and equipped. In other words, well trained in using military weaponry of the CURRENT day in order to protect the country of enemies, both foreign and domestic. If you look t the definition of "well Regulated" 200 years ago, it totally fits the need for ordinary citizens to be proficient in ALL weapons necessary to defend this nation, NFA or not!

 

[BC38]

Not at all what I expected this thread to be about...

 

[swsig]

I believe it was General Yamamoto when ask if they were going to attack the US mainland after Pearl Harbor. He said NO there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass. Note The Gov. in a certain country is now handing FULL AUTO AK's and ammo to all it's citizens that will take one.

Unless I'm mistaken, the Yamamoto quote has been debunked.

Yamamoto was actually an Admiral, the commander in chief of Japan's Combined Fleet. Before the war, he did say that if Japan went to war with the U.S., (which he was reluctant to do), he could "run wild", for six months to a year, but after that, he had no confidence. Six months later, his opinion was validated when he suffered a catastrophic defeat at the Battle of Midway.

 

[M29since14]

Unless I'm mistaken, the Yamamoto quote has been debunked.

I was not aware that some do-gooder had set out to "debunk" the epithet attributed to Admiral Yamamoto, but since I was not there, and I doubt very much the debunker was either, I prefer to think it is true - or close to it. Where does the debunking originate?

 

[UncleEd]

Semi-auto or bolt action rifles
just fine.

I think the U.S. Army has learned,
more than once, give a "trained"
soldier a rifle with full auto
capability and you've issued
a weapon soon without
any ammunition.

 

[dmar]

I was not aware that some do-gooder had set out to "debunk" the epithet attributed to Admiral Yamamoto, but since I was not there, and I doubt very much the debunker was either, I prefer to think it is true - or close to it. Where does the debunking originate?

Agreed. And, debunked, or not, the words are true…

NFA is a joke, just another government intrusion on our Constitutional rights. Law abiding citizens should have a right to have any gun that the police, or military uses (I'm talking firearms here, not sure about missiles, rockets, and nukes…) as they are merely supposed to be extensions of 'we the people,' not some exclusive class in our society with extra special rights. Well, that was the original intention, anyway….

Now, if somebody chooses to engage in criminal conduct, then that's a different story, you get limited rights, and punishment. This all said, our society is so broken now that the idea of us regular citizens having open access to automatic weapons is probably impractical. Government creates its own problems, then enacts limitations that impact law abiding citizens, and our Constitutional rights.

 

[M29since14]

Government IS a problem. Always. We were warned to be cautious of it. We've gone along on our merry way, consistently ignoring those warnings, stomping mercilessly on the Constitution as we go, with our absurd "living document" BS to justify whatever it is the stompers are REALLY after.

 

[BLACKHAWKNJ]

I have seen F/A firearms described as "a quick way to turn ammunition into noise" and as Mark Twain might say, their effectiveness is" greatly exaggerated". The Soviets issued large numbers of PPSh M-1941s and PPS M-1943s, they were easy to manufacture and easy to train conscript troops with, the Soviets emphasized close range tactics.
In the Revolution, both sides were evenly matched in terms of firearms and artillery, it was superior British drill and discipline that made the difference until 1778 or so.

 

[Retired W4]

You think they have any AKs that will rock n roll?

Our government has tons of them. We picked a lot of them up in the desert of Iraq (and other places)( several years ago.

 

[squidsix]

You up that to 10,000 rounds per year, per rifle, and I am in.
1,000 rounds is not gonna cut it. You want proficiency, you gotta crank up the trigger time.

 

[djohns6]

I was not aware that some do-gooder had set out to "debunk" the epithet attributed to Admiral Yamamoto, but since I was not there, and I doubt very much the debunker was either, I prefer to think it is true - or close to it. Where does the debunking originate?

I think it was more that there is no proof that he ever said it . MAYBE he did , maybe he didn't .

 

[ironhead7544]

The M16 series fire at around 750 rounds per minute. How long would your ammo stash last? I am in the one round one kill school.

Concerning the Swiss, I heard they can buy their rifle when they leave the service. The rifle would be converted to semi only.

 

[Tam 3]

I seem to remember that something relating to that remark was made post-war during occupation, commenting on the existence of military class rifle matches in the U.S. Yamamoto wasn't there.

Regards,

Tam 3