NY gun legislation signed

[ladder13]

Hochul signs New York bill requiring social media history to obtain gun carry permit | Washington Examiner

Those seeking gun permits would have to disclose both their active and inactive social media accounts from the past three years as well as provide references the state can contact to confirm their "good moral character," the legislation states. The requirements are just one component of several proposed changes to New York gun laws after parts of its existing restrictions on concealed carry permits were struck down in a Supreme Court ruling last week.



An applicant seeking a permit will need to meet with a licensing officer for an in-person interview, complete at least 16 hours of firearm training, and agree to store all firearms securely, according to the bill. The legislation will also create a statewide database for ammunition sales and license records and mandate sellers to keep records of every ammunition transaction.

 

[kbm6893]

Also included is a list of sensitive places where guns can't be carried even with a permit. Schools, playgrounds, all mass transit, all of Times Square, houses of worship, parks, sports arenas, bars, restaurants, and more. Also, all private businesses UNLESS the owner posts a sign saying guns are welcome. Carrying in those locations will result in arrest and loss of permit.

Was nice to have a victory for a couple of days. Now it's worse than it was before. California will do the same if the NY decision transfers over to them. I'm sure reloading components will be next.

 

[SquarePizza]

In addition, it's not legal to enter any establishment with a concealed firearm unless they post signs allowing it. Firearm storage in a vehicle is prohibited.

Therefore if you need milk on the way home, you are no longer legal to carry in a grocery store, and no longer legal to lock it in the car in order to legally run into the store.

Basically everyone gets a CC permit but you're not allowed to use it anywhere outside of the woods/gun range.

So because the SCOTUS poked
the bear and aftempted to expand our rights, I've lost all the freedom I've had for the last 15 years.

 

[kbm6893]

In addition, it's not legal to enter any establishment with a concealed firearm unless they post signs allowing it. Firearm storage in a vehicle is prohibited.

Therefore if you need milk on the way home, you are no longer legal to carry in a grocery store, and no longer legal to lock it in the car in order to legally run into the store.

Basically everyone gets a CC permit but you're not allowed to use it anywhere outside of the woods/gun range.

So because the SCOTUS poked
the bear and aftempted to expand our rights, I've lost all the freedom I've had for the last 15 years.

Yeah. Those who had a permit now have a mostly useless piece of paper. Those who are going to get one will have the same useless piece of paper.

Gotta think it's going to be challenged. We'll see if it gets reversed. I doubt it though.

On the other hand, this legislation could end her. There are 62 counties in NYS. Cuomo only won 14 of those counties. 5 of them were the five boroughs of NYC, Nassau, Suffolk, Westchester were another 3. They're all adjacent to NYC. He took Albany County, of course. That's 9. The other five were here and there. But I think it's safe to say any gun owner in those counties has just decided to vote somebody else in. Add in the rising crime and the governor's policies on that, bail reform being number 1, and the scale could be tipped.

You don't have to be a gun guy with dozens of guns and memberships on gun forums to not want to be arrested for getting milk on the way home. Poking the bear goes both ways.

 

[robertrwalsh]

Anybody who gave the matter any thought at all KNEW it would require downstream legal action to compel New York to act in a reasonable and responsible manner. You can count on CA, NJ and Hawaii to join in on the obstruction, slow-dragging and similar behavior.

 

[stansdds]

Governor Hochul said that this fight was not over, she meant it.

 

[Goldstar225]

I expected the rogue states to throw up every barrier that they could. My hope is that the federal appeals courts will follow the guidance SCOTUS set in Bruens and rule against these measures but I'm not optimistic.

 

[demkofour]

NYS SAFE Act V2.0: "I just signed a new law to keep New Yorkers safe – even in the face of a monumental setback from the Supreme Court. Thanks to @AndreaSCousins, @CarlHeastie, and our legislative partners for your quick work and collaboration to pass these critical gun safety reforms," Hochul tweeted Friday night…

I feel sooooo safe, thanks Gov!

 

[NYlakesider]

I was afraid something lie this might happen. She is running for governor and wants all the publicity she can get (in order to impress her supporters)

This of course will end up going through the many court systems. The question is will all its onerous provisions be allowed or will things be left the way they are till this nonsense is adjudicated.

I knew that our "leaders" were up to something and figured it would be like DC when their over the top gun laws were straightened out by the courts.

Many of what they demand is already law, of course they do not know that the only thing they know about guns are they are bad.

Setting up more gun free zones, most people reading this know what will happen. Like usual 99 & 44/100% of what they did will not effect the criminals and be a huge burden on the honest taxpaying people of this state.

 

[vt_shooter]

It's time for the Federal Government to start charging state politicans under 42 U.S. Code § 1985 - Conspiracy to interfere with civil rights.

para 3:
(3) Depriving persons of rights or privileges
If two or more persons in any State or Territory conspire or go in disguise on the highway or on the premises of another, for the purpose of depriving, either directly or indirectly, any person or class of persons of the equal protection of the laws, or of equal privileges and immunities under the laws; or for the purpose of preventing or hindering the constituted authorities of any State or Territory from giving or securing to all persons within such State or Territory the equal protection of the laws; or if two or more persons conspire to prevent by force, intimidation, or threat, any citizen who is lawfully entitled to vote, from giving his support or advocacy in a legal manner, toward or in favor of the election of any lawfully qualified person as an elector for President or Vice President, or as a Member of Congress of the United States; or to injure any citizen in person or property on account of such support or advocacy; in any case of conspiracy set forth in this section, if one or more persons engaged therein do, or cause to be done, any act in furtherance of the object of such conspiracy, whereby another is injured in his person or property, or deprived of having and exercising any right or privilege of a citizen of the United States, the party so injured or deprived may have an action for the recovery of damages occasioned by such injury or deprivation, against any one or more of the conspirators.

 

[Borderboss]

New York will be the new punching bag for the District Federal Court. The beauty of Thomas's majority opinion wasn't just that he said why they overturned the New York law, he also said how the federal courts must think and judge all new cases going forward. Based on that, the new NY law will fail immediately in the District Court, but if they run into a judge that was absent the day they covered law in law school, the appellate court will slap it down quickly.

 

[kbm6893]

This is just like the Safe Act. Passed in the middle of the night with not even polling the public. And just like the Safe Act, this one has reached way too far. The Safe Act initially banned ALL magazines with capacities over 7 rounds, and it made possession of them a Class A Misdemeanor. But they forgot to exempt cops, so every cop in the state was now committing a crime. They hastily amended the law to exempt cops, but then then magazine ban was challenged since there are very few semi auto's that even come with magazines of 7 rounds or less. The court ruled that was reaching too far, and the law was mended to 10 round magazines are OK, but only 7 rounds can be loaded. And it didn't take that long to make the changes.

This is a clear attempt to get around the decision. The court ruled they couldn't make the whole island of Manhattan a sensitive area, so they just made 95% of the state one. In these crazy times, you can never tell what an appeal is going to bring, but this law is completely unfair and illegal and they know it and don't care.

The pushback to this will be far more intense. I know alot of people who didn't really blink much of an eye at the Safe Act. They could still carry a weapon. But banning licensed weapons in 95% of the public space, requiring a background check to buy ammo? NICS checks took 3 hours for a gun I bought last month. It will take WEEKS to conduct all those background checks. The hunter who is trying to buy a box of .30-06 isn't going to be happy about that.

 

[Protocall_Design]

These politicians are doing what all the other criminals do. They do anything they want to, because no one will hold them accountable for their actions.

 

[petepeterson]

It's time for the Federal Government to start charging state politicans under 42 U.S. Code § 1985 - Conspiracy to interfere with civil rights.

It's time for the Federal Gov't to secure the borders, provide for the defense of the country, etc.
Pretty much what is granted in the Constitution.
Then get their nose out of everything else.
If the citizens of New York don't like this, they can take it up at the polls (which I've been assured are very secure....hee hee hee...)

 

[NYlakesider]

It's time for the Federal Government to start charging state politicans under 42 U.S. Code § 1985 - Conspiracy to interfere with civil rights.

para 3:
(3) Depriving persons of rights or privileges
If two or more persons in any State or Territory conspire or go in disguise on the highway or on the premises of another, for the purpose of depriving, either directly or indirectly, any person or class of persons of the equal protection of the laws, or of equal privileges and immunities under the laws; or for the purpose of preventing or hindering the constituted authorities of any State or Territory from giving or securing to all persons within such State or Territory the equal protection of the laws; or if two or more persons conspire to prevent by force, intimidation, or threat, any citizen who is lawfully entitled to vote, from giving his support or advocacy in a legal manner, toward or in favor of the election of any lawfully qualified person as an elector for President or Vice President, or as a Member of Congress of the United States; or to injure any citizen in person or property on account of such support or advocacy; in any case of conspiracy set forth in this section, if one or more persons engaged therein do, or cause to be done, any act in furtherance of the object of such conspiracy, whereby another is injured in his person or property, or deprived of having and exercising any right or privilege of a citizen of the United States, the party so injured or deprived may have an action for the recovery of damages occasioned by such injury or deprivation, against any one or more of the conspirators.

I'm a retired pipefitter not a lawyer but wonder if their is some way we can charge these people under the RICO statutes? They make the law say what they want it to say, hey fair is fair!

 

[FLJoe]

I'm having a very hard time understanding how they can declare houses of worship to be gun free zones. Every church I've ever belonged to was owned by the parishioners and members. How can the state tell members they can't have have weapons on their own property? I would surely hope this part is challenged in court.

 

[Muss Muggins]

Lots of other places of public assembly not owned by the state are included. They're just not singling out churches . . .

I'm having a very hard time understanding how they can declare houses of worship to be gun free zones. Every church I've ever belonged to was owned by the parishioners and members. How can the state tell members they can't have have weapons on their own property? I would surely hope this part is challenged in court.

 

[John_M52]

New NJ gun restrictions

Murphy just signed sweeping restrictions on the heels of the SCOTUS ruling. Micro-stamping, ammo registration databases, training requirements, etc. You can have a CCW permit, but no guns or ammo.... I'm sure some will be challenged.

Link to bills:

Office of the Governor | Governor Murphy Signs Sweeping Gun Safety Package 3.0 to Continue the Fight Against Gun Violence

 

[vt_shooter]

It's not going to help NY's case when NY conspirator Sen. Robert Jackson (D-Washington Heights) was quoted as saying "they were doing this to 'counter' the Supreme Court".

 

[John_M52]

Or NJ Gov Murphy on CNN: "...we will attack folks who don't know how to use guns..."