Ok, Lucy ‘splain this to me

[steelslaver]

But, if you mishandle a knife you’re liable to cut yourself-mishandle a firearm and you can kill someone you don’t even know is there. Knife folks KNOWthat knives are dangerous and act accordingly-SOME gun owners are clueless.

Never whittle towards yourself, whittle toward your buddy

 

[BC38]

...We could do with a whole lot less safety rules on the job if the quit trying to make it all idiot proof and went to work eliminating the idiots...

Yeah, every time you think you have something idiot-proof, somebody comes along and makes a better idiot.

I'm not saying we should eliminate all the idiots, just remove the warning labels (and ridiculous "safety measures") and let the problem work itself out...

 

[steelslaver]

Well from time to time I have been know to begin making an idiot move, BUT, I have the common sense to recognize that fact and STOP and regroup.

I used to have an ax with a nylon handle and on the handle by the head it said, "Eead instruction manual carefully" Followed by of all things "This instrument can cause serious bodily harm or death". No **** Sherlock. Do we really have to tell people that????????????? ITS AN AX you morons

Every shutdownb when I would run the bundle bad, which had lots of really heavy pieces of steel moving and being assembled to together, I would constantly be telling people don't stick your hands there, watch where you put your hands. I always got replies, I wasn't going to or I won't. Yet, I always found some guy with a taped up finger. My favorite one was the guy who when I asked what happened to your finger? said, ''I slammed it in a car door". Yea, right. But, I bet he kept them out of where they didn't belong after that. A pinched finger or black nail really didn't bother me, safety would freak out though. But, I figured that was a lesson learned. My nightmare was a smashed and ruined hand or foot or worse a crushed body. STEEL DOESN'T CARE ABOUT YOU. It doesn't see you, it will not dodge or stop for you. It will wait patiently for you to screw up and then bite you HARD. If you get 30,000# of it moving close to you on a bridge crane you had all best pay attention cause it WON'T

One of my basic safety lectures

 

[Yaworski]

I used to have an ax with a nylon handle and on the handle by the head it said, "Eead instruction manual carefully"

When I was much younger I subscribed to "Reader's Digest." One month there was an article about silly warnings in user manuals.

The one that stuck in my head came from a Swedish chainsaw (they didn't mention the brand but I'm thinking Husqvarna). It said, "Do not attempt to stop chain with hands or genitals."

It makes you wonder what happened to get that warning in the manual.

 

[hdfinder47]

Someone once asked me why I preferred teaching women to shoot over young men. I said that women generally say, "I know nothing ... teach me." Men say, "Here let me show you all the cool stuff I already know." Also, women smell nicer.

I find this VERY true - and in my experience, older men (my age) are the worst students.

 

[Shibadog]

I’m a retired Safety Engineer. Safety is basically common sense. Sadly, common sense is NOT common. I made a great living for 45 years because people are fundamentally stupid. As my assistant used to point out, those “safety labels” are on things because Somebody did exactly what the warning pertains to. One of my favorites on rotary mowers was “ caution-do not use as a hedge trimmer”. The visual image says it all

 

[AJ]

I’m a retired Safety Engineer. Safety is basically common sense. Sadly, common sense is NOT common. I made a great living for 45 years because people are fundamentally stupid. As my assistant used to point out, those “safety labels” are on things because Somebody did exactly what the warning pertains to. One of my favorites on rotary mowers was “ caution-do not use as a hedge trimmer”. The visual image says it all

You are correct in saying "common sense is not common". Intelligence has nothing to do with common sense. Worked in the aviation community for 24 years (mostly in Avionics'). Some of the dumbest (no common sense) people that I know were the smartest. Had to have an IQ of 120 or better to get into the fields, but common sense was not required!!

 

[Shibadog]

You are correct in saying "common sense is not common". Intelligence has nothing to do with common sense. Worked in the aviation community for 24 years (mostly in Avionics'). Some of the dumbest (no common sense) people that I know were the smartest. Had to have an IQ of 120 or better to get into the fields, but common sense was not required!!

Absolutely. My BIL is a great guy, Computer whiz. Retired from Northrop. Common sense? Not so much. That boy could tear up an anvil with a rubber hammer. Taught him to shoot a few years ago. Thought I would have to break his finger to keep it out of the trigger guard until he was ready to fire. He finally got there, but wasn’t easy

 

[gunbarrel]

A few years back, I overheard a young guy at the movies 'splain to his GF that the guys in the movie held their "heaters" this way "because that's how they came in the boxes..."

You have to remember...much of the information our young people get is from television or movies. What do you expect?

For example...proper shooting stance.

 

[taz666]

I kind of think that cursive writing provides a clue to the persons' artistic side more than anything else. Doctors are not artistic.

 

[Shibadog]

A few years back, I overheard a young guy at the movies 'splain to his GF that the guys in the movie held their "heaters" this way "because that's how they came in the boxes..."[

 

[Shibadog]

A few years back, I overheard a young guy at the movies 'splain to his GF that the guys in the movie held their "heaters" this way "because that's how they came in the boxes..."

That would explain it. I thought it was because of all the experts in the movies. Now that you’ve explained the box thing it makes perfect sense. Methinks there is insufficient chlorine in the gene pool

 

[Greyman50]

My Dad was a Serious old Colt collector, had a few nice pieces but most were so so. I got a through education in guns at an early age and learned to shoot revolvers using a Colt Lightening. My grandfather was kind of into guns and spent summers with them so more gun experience. My first gun i bought was a Walther PPKs in 32 ACP which my son has. Also living in the country on a big farm had plenty of shooting room and hunting. I’m pretty sure many here have similar lives and are pretty knowledgable concerning guns. So the question is tv, movies, and internet “ information” regarding guns better or actual experience?

 

[AJ]

My Dad was a Serious old Colt collector, had a few nice pieces but most were so so. I got a through education in guns at an early age and learned to shoot revolvers using a Colt Lightening. My grandfather was kind of into guns and spent summers with them so more gun experience. My first gun i bought was a Walther PPKs in 32 ACP which my son has. Also living in the country on a big farm had plenty of shooting room and hunting. I’m pretty sure many here have similar lives and are pretty knowledgeable concerning guns. So the question is tv, movies, and internet “ information” regarding guns better or actual experience?

Nothing beats hands on experience!

 

[Nevada Ed]

One pushes, the other connects. Duh.

Sadly, most people have no interest in knowing how things work. My curse is that I want to know how everything works.

In the 60's most mechanics knew how to put it together but

the experts knew "Why" it was put together, that way.

Same with the gun guys and then the ......................... gun smiths !!

 

[Yaworski]

I’m a retired Safety Engineer. Safety is basically common sense. Sadly, common sense is NOT common.

I worked in a steel mill when I was in college. One of the required pieces of safety equipment was safety glasses. At the time were given glasses that looked like these

A popular thing to do was to pop out the lenses. Why? Not really sure. Not me. The last thing I wanted was a shard of steel stuck in my eyeball.

 

[taz666]

Probably because they got so hard to see out of during the day that the glasses became an even bigger risk to safety. Frames on passed the cursory test.

 

[gdogs]

I dunno about you, but none of my knives have any form of safety, yet I still have all of my fingers and have never been seriously injured by any of them. For the record, I've carried a knife since I was just a boy.

All of my automatic knives have safeties. I wouldn't put one in my pocket without one, and I carry one daily. Of course they aren't needed for the vast majority of pocket knives, but I got rid of a flipper knife once because it kept coming open in my pocket.

 

[taz666]

As for the fact that a firearm is potentially more lethal than a knife if mishandled, so are matches or a kitchen stove. Handle those irresponsibly and you can burn a whole apartment building down, potentially resulting in the deaths of many, yet they don't have safties, nor does anyone argue that they ought to.

That isn't entirely true though. New construction and retrofitting of older apartment buildings with sprinkler systems is a safety measure. Along with smoke/carbon monoxide detectors. If these things are properly maintained they add a measure of safety to renters and owners.

Or course, we as individuals have the freedom to ignore safety in our own "castles".

 

[Greyman50]

Amazed no one has mentioned OSHA. I was in high school working a summer job in the carpentry shop when OSHA “ hit”. The older gentleman that ran the shop was missing 3 fingers on his left hand. Lost them on a table saw before WWII so did not have to serve. There was a new joke regarding the split open front toilet seats that OSHA mandated. Afraid to post it. Fast forward to late 80s was in charge of company’s OSHA compliance. Explaining OSHA to management was almost comical. Several times I inferred that I have copy of my safety report and by chance they refuse to enact the solution and an “ incident occurs” the chips will fall where they will. Clearance in front of breaker panels was one of the biggest issues. BTW wearing gloves, neck ties or loose clothing in or around machine shops is a BIG No No.. Guys getting pulled into a turning chuck by loose clothing is Very ugly.