On Point (NPR) on VA Gun Bans

[mike from st pete]

With Special Session, Virginia Is Set To Take Up Gun Control | On Point

YES! WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING!
Even if the last time it did not work as expected. VA had a plan called Project Exile that actually worked to reduce gun violence. Where did that plan go?

 

[s&wchad]

If you live in Virginia, do everything you can to fight these bills. Contact your Legislators and oppose any further gun control legislation. Make your voice heard.

If we don’t stand together, we all stand alone. Inanimate objects aren’t the problem, prematurely released offenders and sociopaths are. Hold your representatives responsible.

 

[stansdds]

If you are interested in reading about the proposed legislation, you can download the information compiled by the Virginia Citizens Defense League at the following link.


https://vcdl.org/resources/pdf/VCDL_Gun_Bill_Analysis_2019_Special_Session.pdf


As for Project Exile, that program started in Richmond, VA, and was quite successful. So successful that it became a state wide program known as Virginia Exile. Many cities in other states also created similar programs. I do not know how well enforced this program is, especially with Governor Northam being opposed to mandatory sentencing.

 

[Jessie]

I’m unable to get there but I contacted my reps and urged them them send that legislation to the trash heap.

 

[stansdds]

Both houses of the Virginia General Assembly met and voted to adjourn until after the elections in November. The left is outraged that they did not get some sort of bans or restrictions or overturning Virginia's pre-emption law. The Republicans did ask that all of the proposed bills be turned over to the Virginia State Crime Commission for study and recommendations.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...ac6bb02d01d_story.html?utm_term=.78ea25e7b97a


Since these issues will surely be resurrected in January of 2020, it will be very important for Virginians to vote in the November elections.

 

[Jessie]

Of course, but is that the best they could do?
Thanks for the update

 

[ladder13]

Here’s what the NRA had to say:

NRA-ILA | NRA Statement On Virginia Special Session

 

[Jessie]

I’m not hearing much

 

[Jessie]

We can’t just keep responding.
We need to get out in front of these attacks.
The best way I can think of is the NRA right now.
There’s things going on, true, but they will be sorted out.
Don’t give the antis a gift. Stay united

 

[Golddollar]

We can’t just keep responding.
We need to get out in front of these attacks.
The best way I can think of is the NRA right now.
There’s things going on, true, but they will be sorted out.
Don’t give the antis a gift. Stay united

I agree. Is there any chance of going on the offense, like repealing the one gun a month law?

 

[Jessie]

It was repealed in 2012 in Virginia, so yes, it can be repealed
Squeaky wheel gets the grease, be loud

 

[armadillo]

Operation Exile was a joint prosecution with state and Federal courts. Criminals sound guilty of gun crimes in state court were prosecuted again under a Federal law the makes it a crime to use a firearm in any crime - state or federal with a mandatory prison sentence.

I recently read that a Federal appeals court ruled against the idea.

 

[stansdds]

Of course, but is that the best they could do?
Thanks for the update

We can’t just keep responding.
We need to get out in front of these attacks.
The best way I can think of is the NRA right now.
There’s things going on, true, but they will be sorted out.
Don’t give the antis a gift. Stay united

Sending the proposed legislation to the State Crime Commission is the best possible outcome of this special session. The special session costs taxpayers $40,000 per day and with nothing of any benefit coming from this special session, the Republicans have saved Virginians some tax money.


The Virginia State Crime Commission is bipartisan and hopefully they will be able to analyze the proposed legislation and likely will come to the same conclusion as Governor Northam, who called for this session and proposed much of the legislation, and has also stated that there is nothing that would have prevented the Virginia Beach Municipal Building massacre. This session was more about political grandstanding than about policy. Hopefully, in November, cooler heads will prevail.


The other thing about November is the state wide election. All of the seats in the Virginia Senate and House are up for grabs in November. Virginia has been redistricted, giving the Democrats a good chance of taking both chambers. It is incredibly important that we run strong candidates who will protect our rights, support those candidates and do everything we can to get them elected. Should we lose both the House and the Senate and have a Democrat in the governor's mansion, we are more likely to see Virginia become the next New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts or California.


Freedom is not free, it requires eternal vigilance.

 

[Jessie]

I don’t understand this being a good outcome at all. Save money?
How much will the crime commission cost? What if the Dems do run the state in November? We know what will happen.
As much as possible should have been shut down now, before the redistricted vote, which you’re implying will probably go their way.
What happened to Virginia?

 

[mike from st pete]

Putting off until AFTER the election makes all those vermin safe for two more years. They are hoping the unwashed masses forget how they voted so they can have two more years in office.

 

[stansdds]

I don’t understand this being a good outcome at all. Save money?
How much will the crime commission cost? What if the Dems do run the state in November? We know what will happen.
As much as possible should have been shut down now, before the redistriced vote, which you’re implying will probably go their way.
What happened to Virginia?

Governor Northam has already made it known that he will not support the mandatory sentencing that has been and was again going to be proposed, so the Republican initiatives were DOA. The Democrat proposals were bans on weapons, magazines, bump fire devices, suppressors, private sales and a return to the old patch work system of local restrictions on the possession and carry of firearms. None of these proposals were going to make it out of committee hearings, which could have taken one or two weeks. Nothing was going to come out of this special session, so limiting it to one day was the best outcome.


It is now up to Virginians to get off of their duffs and make their voices heard at the ballot box.


By the way, the Democrat legislators were not thinking about "buy backs" or grandfathering with their bans. Instead, there would be a 1 year term in which all devices and firearms deemed illegal would need to be turned into your local law enforcement agency or transferred to owners outside of Virginia. Would you have preferred this to have been the outcome?

 

[lkabug]

The NRA and Virginia Citizens Defense League were out in force yesterday in Richmond. I hope the Virginia members on here made your voice and wishes heard.

 

[stansdds]

Sadly, I cannot attend most of these things because I have a job, but I do support the NRA, GOA, and the VCDL. I also contact my state delegate, U.S. representative and my state and U.S. senators. My state delegate, Kirk Cox, is the only one who supports the 2nd amendment and all the others no longer to even bother sending me a canned response to my inquiries. I get the feeling they are not interested in what I have to say.

 

[Jessie]

Of course not but won’t this stand a better chance of passing when they control it all?

 

[Jessie]

My rep Lee Ware Jr. replied with “ Will do Sir and thank you for the message!”
They’re not all out to lunch, yet.
( of course if he knew it would be tabled, he could say anything)