Opinion on F.E.G. handguns, please?

I thought about picking one up but I'm kinda meh on HiPowers. Had one, very nice, great condition FN, but.....it was only good as a paper weight. Could never get through a full mag. I got rid of it and lost interest in them.

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I carried a BHP Commerical model off duty back in my early career. About the only Hi Cap available at the time. I sold it decades ago but always liked the feel of the P 35 grip.

Recently I bought a Mark III from Aim Surplus. It had the painted on finish with pock marks. It had a weak extractor spring. I ordered all new springs and pins from Browning. Cerakote and new grips and it shoots everything I have feed it. HP and FMJs. It's more pride of ownership and the resurrection of an old workhorse today. But if another crossed my path at a good price I would jump on it. It's like my 1911 it has a place in my world.

I have two FEG PPk clones. They work they feed the hollowpoints and I have found aftermarket grips that enhance the appearance. One is 380 and the other is 9mmmak. Good quality they work the price was good.
 
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I thought about picking one up but I'm kinda meh on HiPowers. Had one, very nice, great condition FN, but.....it was only good as a paper weight. Could never get through a full mag. I got rid of it and lost interest in them.

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After running into trouble with the FEG my brother has, it seems that a weak extractor spring is a common problem, you end up with double feed jams.
This is the Hi Power design, not exclusive to FEGs, but across the board for all HPs, including the "real" ones.

Cheap and pretty easy fix, even for the mechanically disinclined.

And then the FEG's lower cost comes into play- under $300 easy to find. You almost feel obligated to own one, if you accept the FEG as a HP (nobody challenges the RIA as a 1911, it's the same concept).
 
I had an FEG PJK 9HP that was every bit as nice as a genuine Browning at about half the price.

The late HP guru Steve Camp also had nice things to say about the FEG.

That is MY experience with the two that I own....total interchangeability of parts so far.

Randy
 
Back in the 90's after my divorce.I couldn't afford to replace a hi power that had been stolen.I bought a feg for about two fifty.It was a good running gun.But first chance I got I sold it and bought a bhp that was finish challenged but sound mechanically.I later turned that into a bbq gun as I could afford the work.If I were you I would look at cole distributing on gunbroker.They still have a few bhp's for four hundred and I would also watch aim surplus they have hi powers quite often.I wish you good luck with whatever you do.
 
One is a F.E.G, two are Belgian Brownings. Little to no difference to me.

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Here are some pics of my FEG. You can see the faint cross bolt above the trigger as previously stated. I also included a pic of my FN Browning showing the same cross bolt. And the FEG slide lock is slightly different. The Browning parts are interchangeable with my FEG. The FEG is very well made. I would not have known about these if I hadn't found this one for $150 about six months ago, sounds like I stole it.
 

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I've heard far more good about FEG's than negative.
Had a chance to get one once fairly cheap, didn't and later ended up with a near-perfect BHP 70's model adjustable sight version for $450 with about 10 magazines.

Another clone that has supposedly been a bargain is the Israeli 'Kareen' models. Might be worth looking in to....
 
I hold the FEG High Power in respect. Although I have a couple of Inglis war-time High Powers, I wanted one I could carry. There are several features of the stock FN models that I do not like, so I looked for one that was not too expensive that I could customize with no worry over modifying a classic.

I found an FEG for a good price, and on inspection it looked like a very satisfactory clone. I sent it off to Cylinder and Slide for the mods I wanted, and they had no problem with it; aftermarket parts such as the safety fit and function fine.

Here's the result: Beavertail to prevent hammer bite. Trigger job. Better sights. Mag safety removed. Extended manual safety. Forward retraction grooves added at no cost by C&S when sandblasted on top of slide and re-blued.

It's given me complete reliability with everything I feed it. Belgian mags work fine. It's quite accurate. It doesn't annoy me with hammer bite. What's not to like?

John

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I would like to apologize in advance for the sacrilege in advance, but I need some opinions.

I have always had a fondness for the Browning Hi Power, but they were always financially beyond my reach, but now that I am a disabled single parent, the Browning will most likely never be within my reach.
I hear you on the high cost of an actual FN Hi Power.

I carried an FN SFS Hi Power for about 10 years and it was a great pistol. But it's my only Browning/FN made Hi Power, due to their cost relative to other options.

I have a few FEG made Hi Power clones and the commercial blued models are nicely finished, for about a third the price of an FN Hi Power. I've found them to be as accurate and as reliable as my FN Hi Power:

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The FEGs come in a few different variants:

The FEG "Hi Power" clones

The FEG P9 is a near perfect clone of a pre-Mk II Hi Power and it has 100% parts interchangeability with the pre Mk I Hi Power. I fitted one of mine with an SFS system to match my carry gun, and it required no more fitting than the average Hi Power.

The first generation P9M:
- eliminated the Hi Power's half moon shaped slide release lever for a 1911 style release lever;
- had a different profile on the slide stop with corresponding differences in the cut on the slide,
- had and extended safety lever; and
- had larger 3 dot sights.

Otherwise it shares the same parts commonality as the P9.

The FEG "Hi Power" look alike:

The second generation P9M looks like a Hi Power on the outside, but isn't really a Hi Power at all as it uses a S&W based locking system. Part commonality with the Hi Power is low. These can be identified by the lack of a visible oval from the cross pin in the Hi Power's frame. if you can't see an oval on the left side of the frame just above the trigger, it is a second gen P9M and not a Hi Power clone.

The FEG "Not a Hi Power at all" ( a S&W Model 59 clone):

The P9R is more or less a S&W Model 59 clone, developed by FEG around the same time that 9mm DA pistols were becoming popular with law enforcement.

Importers and model numbers for the P9, 1st gen P9M, second Gen P9M, and the P9R.

KBI imported a larger number of them and called the P9, 1st gen P9 and 2nd gen P9 all the "PJK-9HP".

Tennessee Guns Inc, also imported the P9 and P9Ms and called them all the "P9M", so you can't base what you have or what's for sale based on the model number stamped on the slide.

FEG doesn't make it much easier as they made the P9 and P9M for both military and civilian markets and configurations varied. The military pistols are matte blue finished or parkerized while the commercial pistols are highly polished. The military pistols were finished per contract specification while the civilian models vary a bit based on the parts that were on hand and/or based on the specifications of the importer.

For example, the commercial P9 in the photos above has the traditional P9/Hi Power half moon slide release lever, but has the extended safety and larger sights of the first generation P9M.

Ring hammers seem to be more common on the commercial FEG pistols, but they also shipped them with spur hammers, and both hammers are found on military contract pistols.

The P9R (the DA Model 59 clone) is also sometimes referred to as an FEG "Hi Power" even though it clearly is not a Hi Power because of the similarity in the model number. Apparently it's hard for some people to get that P = Pistol, 9= 9mm Luger, and M, R, etc are different models of FEG 9mm pistols.

The FEG "counterfeit" Hi Power

FEG also made P9s for a couple of middle eastern countries that were subject to arms embargoes. In order to avoid making it obvious they were selling guns to these countries, they roll marked them as FN made Hi Powers. These are identifiable by the B prefix and 5 digit serial numbers found on them.

The "Kareen" Hi Power

FEG also sold fully assembled P9s to Israel to augment the FN Hi powers Israel had obtained, from both FN and surplus sources. When Israel wanted to develop it's own indigenous production, FEG started selling the P9 parts to Israel that were then finished and assembled by the Israelis and were marked "Kareen".

Interestingly the Israeli surplus "Hi Powers" coming into the US include FN made Hi Powers, FEG made P9s, FEG made counterfeit Hi Powers and Israeli assembled Kareens. The counterfeit Hi Powers suggest that Israel captured a number of them, and put them to good use before surplussing them with the others.

The Charles Daly Hi Power

KBI also bought P9 parts from FEG that were then finished and assembled in the US. They sold them under their upscale "Charles Daly" banner as the "Charles Daly Hi Power" (CDHP for short) and these were excellent Hi Power clones. CDHPs with an "HP" prefix were from the early production batch of 500 assembled by Dan Wesson, while CDHPs with a "HPM" prefix were the balance of the pistols assembled by Magnum Research. The Dan Wesson assembled pistols had slides milled for Browning pattern Novak dove tails, while the Magnum Research assembled guns had the slides milled for 1911 pattern Novak dove tails.

Note that all of the above pistols are FEG made or made from FEG supplied parts.

All of the FEG "Hi Power" pistols use a humped feed ramp that is reported to have issues feeding hollow points. That however has not been my experience with the three I've owned. They are all very reliable with the hollow points I've used (mostly Golden Sabers and XTPs). Worst case you can have a gunsmith remove the hump, or you can replace the barrel.

There are also Argentine "FM" Hi Powers

They also come in a couple different flavors, with various degrees of fidelity to the Hi Power.

Between 1969 and 1989, Direccion General Fabrications Militaries (commonly shortened to "FM") in Argentina made licensed copies of the 1965 Mk II Hi Power. These were assembled on FN tooling, with FN inspectors and were fully licensed Hi Powers.

In 1989 when the license expired FM started making a Hi Power clone (since it was no longer a licensed Hi Power), but with some changes:
- the scallop at the front of the slide was eliminated, giving it more of a 1911 look;
- the slide serrations were wider and fewer in number;
- the top of the slide was matte finished; and
- it used 3 dot sights with a low sight rail.

FM called it the "FM90" and sold them both to the Argentine military and on the civilian market. The later FM 95s incorporated many of the MK III Hi Power design changes as well - including the firing pin safety and ambidextrous thumb safety, although they still use the humped feed ramp of the earlier Hi Powers.

The FN licensed FMs are excellent Hi Powers, while the FM 90s and FM95s are very serviceable weapons, but were made for military use and don't have the same level of finish.

The Arcus Kind-of-a-Hi Power.

The Arcus Model 94 is a Hi Power derived pistol that shares the same magazines and grips as the Hi Power and shares parts commonality with the Hi Power for some of the internal parts. The Arcus Model 94 has a square cut trigger guard and other squared lines on the slide and frame that I suspect was done to give it a more contemporary similar to the Sig Sauer pistols.

The slide is a little heaver and it's a little larger over all, so it won't fit a hi Power holster and while the operating principles are the same and some of parts are interchangeable, it's not really a Hi Power. It's still a decent pistol however, and it's too bad CAI stopped importing them about 10 years ago.
 
Fantastic info posted, BB57!

I surmise that my own FEG is a P9, and the one I gifted to my brother (a Kareen) is an early, completely assembled variant.

I believe the only difference in specs from the FN- both ours have a slight flare at the base of the magwell, instead of the completely straight grip.

If you compare these two images, you can see the difference:
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Both images show the oval (the desired feature, indicates internal parts compatibility).

There are LOTS of FEGs floating around, for not a lot of money. If you like the platform, these are fantastic value...
To compare to the 1911 platform, consider the FEG to be like a RIA (inexpensive, 100% compatible), and not like a Llama (looks like a 1911, but not truly compatible).

My FEG was parkerized before I got it, cost me just a hair over $200. There is evidence of some pitting on the left side of the slide near the muzzle, but the parkerizing has addressed that.

Mine is not a Grande Puissance P 35 made by Fabrique Nationale in Belgium; but I have zero hesitation in calling it a High Power. I have no doubt that I could strip my frame and slide completely, and replace all parts with the FN/Browning ones, and they would fit and work.
FEGs are made with good metallurgy as far as I can tell, and they weren't cast frames or slides, they were made exactly the same as the Belgian guns.

People say that the $400 Brownings coming out now are good deals, and I'm sure they are- but I wouldn't pay $200 more for a different roll mark, and a lesser finish (a lot of those Brownings are painted). I'm completely satisfied with mine, just as it is.
 
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