LVSteve
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Which as a state, no doubt having qualified immunity, Oregon will simply laugh off.
OREGON LAW ALREADY CHALLENGED
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Which as a state, no doubt having qualified immunity, Oregon will simply laugh off.
LVSteve
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Thank you for posting that, it has greatly improved my education as to how the US got to where it is.
The UK went through a similar exercise in 1832 to reduce the influence of "Rotten Boroughs". The classic example was Old Sarum in Wiltshire, that had three houses and seven voters, yet returned two members of parliament.
Rotten and pocket boroughs - Wikipedia
Living in the Las Vegas valley I am acutely aware of its overbearing influence on the rest of the state. 74% of the population are here, and most have little to no clue as to how the rest of the state operates and wishes to live. That dog don't hunt for me.
Hooray for the Oregon State Constitution, and a judge that understands it. The good fight continues.
Federal judge rules Oregon gun control can move ahead, state judge says no
Federal judge rules Oregon gun control can move ahead, state judge says no
ajgunner
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The latest news on the Oregon circus.
Oregon Supreme Court blocks gun regulation law from taking effect - UPI.com
Oregon Supreme Court blocks gun regulation law from taking effect - UPI.com
The writing has been on the wall for some time in Oregon, regarding gun/magazine bans. The dumbs have been in control of the State for over 30 years, and has been moving left ever since. Then they vote to allow drugs such as meth and heroin to be legal, welcome the homeless with open arms at the taxpayers expense, then the schools started putting tampon machines in the boys bathrooms. I had enough of that BS, and was fortunate enough to move to western Montana 6 months ago after living in the Hillsboro/Forest Grove area for over 50 years. Such a beautiful State, but run by idiots.....
On one of the Hannity programs there was discussion about Colorado and no one knew why it had become a blue state. I know why.
I had lived in Colorado for around 5 years, I moved out of Colorado 27 years ago. At that time folks were complaining that Californians were moving into Colorado at the rate of, I believe 15,000+ per month due to high crime and tax rates.
The complaint at that time was Colorado did not have the infrastructure to support in mass influx of people and that they were bringing the crime
with them.
It only took 10+ years to convert a Conservative State to a Liberal State.
There is a lesson here with people migration.
People migration WILL bring their values and beliefs with them; no question about that - it is a fact one can easily see from past history.
Arizona has became Liberal state with the 2022 election and will be a solid Liberal state within 10 more years.
Texas will follow shortly thereafter.
Florida will also fall to Liberalism within 20 years.
For those of you who say that could never happen, like I once did, look at World History.
I had lived in Colorado for around 5 years, I moved out of Colorado 27 years ago. At that time folks were complaining that Californians were moving into Colorado at the rate of, I believe 15,000+ per month due to high crime and tax rates.
The complaint at that time was Colorado did not have the infrastructure to support in mass influx of people and that they were bringing the crime
with them.
It only took 10+ years to convert a Conservative State to a Liberal State.
There is a lesson here with people migration.
People migration WILL bring their values and beliefs with them; no question about that - it is a fact one can easily see from past history.
Arizona has became Liberal state with the 2022 election and will be a solid Liberal state within 10 more years.
Texas will follow shortly thereafter.
Florida will also fall to Liberalism within 20 years.
For those of you who say that could never happen, like I once did, look at World History.
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Unfortunately, I think you're 100% correct...
DeplorabusUnum
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I must admit that this was a totally unexpected result to me. I fully expected the Oregon Supreme Court to strike down the TRO stopping the implementation of this asinine new law. They are supposed to be non-partisan, but I wonder if the closeness of the vote (50.5-49.5) influenced their decision in any way.
I lived in coastal Oregon for 12 years. A great place then. Now is a sewer. Drugs, libs, goofy politicians. etc. Their Governor could screw up a free lunch.
OP
I confess the action by the Oregon Supreme Court surprises me. I would have expected them to be dyed in the wool liberal idiots. It is just barely possible that they understand what Bruen means and don't intend to look conspicuously stupid in public. That would be nice.
ajgunner
Member
Oh boy---look who has joined our side.
Oregon's LGBTQ community worries a new law will keep them from obtaining guns. : NPR
Oregon's LGBTQ community worries a new law will keep them from obtaining guns. : NPR
That's great news, but not totally surprised. I have a good friend who, at 58, made the trip to Thailand to switch from boy to girl. She still lives in CA and is about as far right as one can go. She loves her guns, sports cars and motorcycles.
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We need all the help we can get. Welcome aboard!
ajgunner
Member
The local news story said they had discovered that the new form to fill out for a purchase permit, only listed M or F on it. While this could easily be changed, I guess in the mean time it really got their panties in a bunch
The marijuana question needs to be revisited too. Almost everyone in a state where it was decriminalized or legalized doesn't understand federal law still says its an illegal substance. THATS the law that counts.
There's a fairly lengthy explanation of that issue on the current 4473. I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you . . .
ATF Form 4473, Question 21E, currently reads: "Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug or any other controlled substance?
Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.
Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.
For what its worth, here's a link to the latest 4473 revisions
from ATF's web site: ATF Form 4473 - Firearms Transaction Record Revisions | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
I did one last week. Interesting wrinkles to say the least.
from ATF's web site: ATF Form 4473 - Firearms Transaction Record Revisions | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
I did one last week. Interesting wrinkles to say the least.
Requiring a permit to exercise a fundamental civil right, plus making the permit 'may issue'? That should be a concern to everyone.
YeshuaIsa53
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It is all in black and white. SA rights are in black and white.
Statistics are all in black and white. The law is in black and white.
It is all black and white what is trying to be done to us.
Some people live in the grey; some people, yellow.
Statistics are all in black and white. The law is in black and white.
It is all black and white what is trying to be done to us.
Some people live in the grey; some people, yellow.
YeshuaIsa53
Member
The lack of phone calls, emails, letters, and getting signatures in the thousands make the next step very difficult. Voices. Being heard.
