shouldazagged
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I'm staying the hell out of this one.
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Ranger514
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Nice one, vytoland! Sounds like one of those "win-win" situations
I been thinking and realized that a thread like this could and a persons replies could very easily end up in court if you ever did get into a situation. A prosecuting attorney would try to use every thing said against you if at all possible. I think that was my last reply to such a thread.
PS: A money clip with one card is all you need to be tossing. Keep the rest of your stuff in a wallet and in a different pocket. They see the money and the card going through the air and they are going to focus on that for a couple seconds. I am tired of dragging the thing out for every purchase anyway.
PS: A money clip with one card is all you need to be tossing. Keep the rest of your stuff in a wallet and in a different pocket. They see the money and the card going through the air and they are going to focus on that for a couple seconds. I am tired of dragging the thing out for every purchase anyway.
geraldw321
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Hello there Well when "Asked for my wallet" in a similar situation i raised my shirt a bit as i went to "retrieve my wallet" which exposed my PARA P-13 .45 needless to say the "gentlemen" who asked QIUCKLY walked away . no reports made . only if someone is harmed in any way is a report made.
ibewbull
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In 1974 at the Norfolk VA bus station I was "asked" if i wanted some cocaine. My reply while grabbing the grip on my 4 inch M 28 was: "Do you want to die?" He split pretty fast. No one was called since my bus was there and I had no permit.
Same bus station 2 years later midnight and not feeling well. No gun this time and no lock on the bathroom stalls.
Hearing footsteps I opened my buck knife while sitting on the throne. Pf corse the guy had to push open the door which was wedged shut with TP. He saw the knife and split very quickly.
I prefer the country and do not miss the east coast at all.
Same bus station 2 years later midnight and not feeling well. No gun this time and no lock on the bathroom stalls.
Hearing footsteps I opened my buck knife while sitting on the throne. Pf corse the guy had to push open the door which was wedged shut with TP. He saw the knife and split very quickly.
I prefer the country and do not miss the east coast at all.
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I believe Masaad Ayoob has recommended this very thing
sac-gunslinger
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Cool Smoke, was not aware of that. I have only read a portion of Ayoob's writings.
Definitely has. Not fake money, but a small amount of real money around enough weight that you can toss it to them. Page 65 of In the Gravest Extreme.
You might want to rethink this one ... its already been proven that you are dead if they are within 21 feet with a knife. Before you can draw your weapon ... even if you know its coming ... they will be on you.
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Some of these hypotheticals are better if addressed to your CCW instructor, an attorney who is a proven winner in self defense cases, or take one of Ayoob's lethal force courses. Someone can ask for my wallet all day - my wife and kids do and I can't shoot them for it. Most everywhere the formula reads something to the effect of reasonable person fearing imminent death or serious bodily injury... Then you really ought to report it for a number if reasons as soon as you can - preferably sooner than they might. A former co-worker spent several months in the rubber gun squad and spent a lot of his own money to defend himself once due to a false allegation. In the end, the puke didn't even show up to court. My co-worker didn't even brandish a gun. It's better that no one knows you're armed until that gravest moment.
oberon
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Give 'em your wallet, then shoot 'em.
Short story: It involves both WHY I carry all the time and presentation ... The wife (who is disabled) and I broke down in a not-so-nice section of the neighboring town after visiting our nephew at the Children's Hospital. She had BEGGED me not to carry b/c we were JUST going to the hospital and my ccw there might stir up trouble ... she keeps forgetting that cop = ignore CCW signs (it's covered in that: "Unless OTHERWISE authorized by law... section of the NO CCW SIGN notice).
Anyhoo I carried and nothing was said about it at the hospital (no one knew I was carrying anyway, concealed means concealed right?
Well, on the way home, the alternator crapped out and the battery died ... about three blocks from the half-way house. Our neighbor who has towing insurance came to pick us up and while were waiting (its 0230 hours), one of the "halfway people" decided to cross the street towards us, just missing getting hit by a speeding police car (lights and sirens yet) and zeros in on me, my wife and the neighbor (female).
He got to about 30 feet away and I told him it was time to leave, but he ignored me and kept coming. I drew and aimed (finger off the trigger) and repeated myself. He acted like he hit a brick wall and walked away mumbling something about not being afraid of my gun. He never came back. About a half hour later a police car pulled up, asked if we were OK, if we had a tow coming etc, I said we were fine and a tow was on its way ... no mention of the little incident earlier, or of me being an off-duty & they pulled off.
The tow came and the car went to the shop and we went home, end of story.
HAD the officers asked about the incident, I would have told them everything, but they didn't, so I didn't. I probably SHOULD have mentioned that there was a street person or whatever he was, approaching people, but I was tired and figured he had made it "home" by then.
Anyhoo I carried and nothing was said about it at the hospital (no one knew I was carrying anyway, concealed means concealed right?
Well, on the way home, the alternator crapped out and the battery died ... about three blocks from the half-way house. Our neighbor who has towing insurance came to pick us up and while were waiting (its 0230 hours), one of the "halfway people" decided to cross the street towards us, just missing getting hit by a speeding police car (lights and sirens yet) and zeros in on me, my wife and the neighbor (female).
He got to about 30 feet away and I told him it was time to leave, but he ignored me and kept coming. I drew and aimed (finger off the trigger) and repeated myself. He acted like he hit a brick wall and walked away mumbling something about not being afraid of my gun. He never came back. About a half hour later a police car pulled up, asked if we were OK, if we had a tow coming etc, I said we were fine and a tow was on its way ... no mention of the little incident earlier, or of me being an off-duty & they pulled off.
The tow came and the car went to the shop and we went home, end of story.
HAD the officers asked about the incident, I would have told them everything, but they didn't, so I didn't. I probably SHOULD have mentioned that there was a street person or whatever he was, approaching people, but I was tired and figured he had made it "home" by then.
Don 73: I had a similar experience this past winter I posted about (Glad I Had My 442 - don't know how to put the link here) and was flammed by one or two people, but supported by everyone else who read it. The hospital we visited also had a no firearms sign and I'm glad I ignored it.
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