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Posted by admin on 2/24/09 • Categorized as News
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For CCSU student John Wahlberg, a class presentation on campus violence turned into a confrontation with the campus police due to a complaint by the professor.
On October 3, 2008, Wahlberg and two other classmates prepared to give an oral presentation for a Communication 140 class that was required to discuss a "relevant issue in the media". Wahlberg and his group chose to discuss school violence due to recent events such as the Virginia Tech shootings that occurred in 2007.
Shortly after his professor, Paula Anderson, filed a complaint with the CCSU Police against her student. During the presentation Wahlberg made the point that if students were permitted to conceal carry guns on campus, the violence could have been stopped earlier in many of these cases. He also touched on the controversial idea of free gun zones on college campuses.
That night at work, Wahlberg received a message stating that the campus police "requested his presence". Upon entering the police station, the officers began to list off firearms that were registered under his name, and questioned him about where he kept them.
They told Wahlberg that they had received a complaint from his professor that his presentation was making students feel "scared and uncomfortable".
"I was a bit nervous when I walked into the police station," Wahlberg said, "but I felt a general sense of disbelief once the officer actually began to list the firearms registered in my name. I was never worried however, because as a law-abiding gun owner, I have a thorough understanding of state gun laws as well as unwavering safety practices."
Professor Anderson refused to comment directly on the situation and deferred further comment.
"It is also my responsibility as a teacher to protect the well being of our students, and the campus community at all times," she wrote in a statement submitted to The Recorder. "As such, when deemed necessary because of any perceived risks, I seek guidance and consultation from the Chair of my Department, the Dean and any relevant University officials."
Wahlberg believes that her complaint was filed without good reason.
"I don't think that Professor Anderson was justified in calling the CCSU police over a clearly nonthreatening matter. Although the topic of discussion may have made a few individuals uncomfortable, there was no need to label me as a threat," Wahlberg said in response. "The actions of Professor Anderson made me so uncomfortable, that I didn't attend several classes. The only appropriate action taken by the Professor was to excuse my absences."
The university police were unavailable for comment.
"If you can't talk about the Second Amendment, what happened to the First Amendment?" asked Sara Adler, president of the Riflery and Marksmanship club on campus. "After all, a university campus is a place for the free and open exchange of ideas."
-Shauna Simeone, Asst. Opinion Editor
 
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Posted by admin on 2/24/09 • Categorized as News
http://therecorderonline.net/2...tudent-presentation/
For CCSU student John Wahlberg, a class presentation on campus violence turned into a confrontation with the campus police due to a complaint by the professor.
On October 3, 2008, Wahlberg and two other classmates prepared to give an oral presentation for a Communication 140 class that was required to discuss a "relevant issue in the media". Wahlberg and his group chose to discuss school violence due to recent events such as the Virginia Tech shootings that occurred in 2007.
Shortly after his professor, Paula Anderson, filed a complaint with the CCSU Police against her student. During the presentation Wahlberg made the point that if students were permitted to conceal carry guns on campus, the violence could have been stopped earlier in many of these cases. He also touched on the controversial idea of free gun zones on college campuses.
That night at work, Wahlberg received a message stating that the campus police "requested his presence". Upon entering the police station, the officers began to list off firearms that were registered under his name, and questioned him about where he kept them.
They told Wahlberg that they had received a complaint from his professor that his presentation was making students feel "scared and uncomfortable".
"I was a bit nervous when I walked into the police station," Wahlberg said, "but I felt a general sense of disbelief once the officer actually began to list the firearms registered in my name. I was never worried however, because as a law-abiding gun owner, I have a thorough understanding of state gun laws as well as unwavering safety practices."
Professor Anderson refused to comment directly on the situation and deferred further comment.
"It is also my responsibility as a teacher to protect the well being of our students, and the campus community at all times," she wrote in a statement submitted to The Recorder. "As such, when deemed necessary because of any perceived risks, I seek guidance and consultation from the Chair of my Department, the Dean and any relevant University officials."
Wahlberg believes that her complaint was filed without good reason.
"I don't think that Professor Anderson was justified in calling the CCSU police over a clearly nonthreatening matter. Although the topic of discussion may have made a few individuals uncomfortable, there was no need to label me as a threat," Wahlberg said in response. "The actions of Professor Anderson made me so uncomfortable, that I didn't attend several classes. The only appropriate action taken by the Professor was to excuse my absences."
The university police were unavailable for comment.
"If you can't talk about the Second Amendment, what happened to the First Amendment?" asked Sara Adler, president of the Riflery and Marksmanship club on campus. "After all, a university campus is a place for the free and open exchange of ideas."
-Shauna Simeone, Asst. Opinion Editor
 
So much for a "relevant issue in the media".
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Brian~
 
"After all, a university campus is a place for the free and open exchange of ideas."

This cannot be farther from the truth ! The only ideas that can be discussed are those that fit the veiws of the university in question. If you don't agree with them, your ideas and any exhange about them is off limits.
 
"As such, when deemed necessary because of any perceived risks, I seek guidance and consultation from the Chair of my Department, the Dean and any relevant University officials."


Kiss-ass!

Does anyone wonder why so many college kids voted for socialism? This is the crap they are being fed.
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WG840
 
quote:
"As such, when deemed necessary because of any perceived risks, I seek guidance and consultation from the Chair of my Department, the Dean and any relevant University officials."
.....and my mommy..


What's her job:
'Shauna Simeone, Asst. Opinion Editor'
>Editing someones opinion to make it sound differently than intended if it doesn't fit your own agenda?

I'd also like to know what sort of list of registered firearms the Univ. PD had on the student and where it came from.
 
More open mindedness from the left.

Boil the frog slowly, soon enough you can control all forms of subject matter that are inconvenient.
 
Professor Anderson refused to comment directly on the situation and deferred further comment.
"It is also my responsibility as a teacher to protect the well being of our students, and the campus community at all times," she wrote in a statement submitted to The Recorder. "As such, when deemed necessary because of any perceived risks, I seek guidance and consultation from the Chair of my Department, the Dean and any relevant University officials."

Professor Anderson states she is responsible to protect the students. If there is a campus shootout like the one at Virginia Tech. is it her intention to throw herself into the line of fire since this simple minded over educated individual obviously doesn't believe in defending herself or anyone else. She sounds a lot like some of the fools that taught at Berkley in the 60's.
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Originally posted by rewster:
"After all, a university campus is a place for the free and open exchange of ideas."

This cannot be farther from the truth ! The only ideas that can be discussed are those that fit the veiws of the university in question. If you don't agree with them, your ideas and any exhange about them is off limits.
+1.

That is a myth. Academics like to flatter themselves that it's true, but they only allow a free and open discussion of ideas they approve.
 
Nancy Pelosi and Sarah Brady probably read that article with one hand and have their personal message device in the other hand.
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The police called and requested to speak to him at the police station. "No I won't come and talk to you. You can talk to my lawyer. Click."
 
Actually, he should contact the NRA and then a lawyer that the NRA refers him to. I suspect that this professor's contacting the campus PD may be "actionable" because it sure sounds like harrasment to me.

However, I still question the wisdom of permitting students with no combat training to carry on campus. Anytime I see some report about a police firefight it always seems that most of the shots fired by the cops miss, and they do receive some combat training. There is a big difference between punching holes in paper at the range and shooting at someone who is shooting at you. I have a bad feeling that permitting students to carry might result in a lot of "friendly fire" casualties. However, if there were any ex special ops military personel attending college, I would strongly endorse letting them carry.
 
Originally posted by scooter123:

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However, I still question the wisdom of permitting students with no combat training to carry on campus. Anytime I see some report about a police firefight it always seems that most of the shots fired by the cops miss, and they do receive some combat training. There is a big difference between punching holes in paper at the range and shooting at someone who is shooting at you. I have a bad feeling that permitting students to carry might result in a lot of "friendly fire" casualties. However, if there were any ex special ops military personel attending college, I would strongly endorse letting them carry.

That makes no sense whatsoever. Am I to understand that you would prefer that a person bent on murdering as many people as possible should be able to go to a university campus and kill until he/she runs out of ammo? Or perhaps until the campus police shows up and perhaps puts an end to the killing? Am I to believe that to you, THIS is preferable to a responsible adult having the right to carry the very tool that could mean the difference between living and dieing because this person isn't James or Jane Bond? You are correct in your contention that "there is a big difference between punching holes in paper at the range and shooting at someone who is shooting at you". Do you know what the biggest difference is? Punching holes in paper is one of the things that one does to prepare as best as possible for that instant in which there really are people shooting AT YOU! None but the most experienced operators and those rare people with ice in their veins will react to a firefight the way the heroes in the movies do. To deny a law abiding responsible adult the right to self defense is just plain wrong.

Do you carry a firearm? If so, can you guarantee that in a firefight you would put each and every round on target? There are VERY few who could even come close. Dose that mean that YOU shouldn't have the right to carry, or hell, even own a firearm. I mean... after all, even if you don't carry in public, you might have to shoot at someone invading your home. There is a real possibility that one or more of those rounds might very well travel outside of the confines of your home. Come on... someone needs a reality check.
 
Having shot some action combat in years past I have not been overly impressed with th shooting skills of many LEO.This is not to denigrate them,but their departments often don't give them enough training and ammo to be great handgunners,and many of the LEO's can't afford a lot of practice ammo.The civilian shooters may consider shooting an active hobby such as golf and devote more time and money to learn skills that may be called on to save their lives.
 
Originally posted by scooter123:
Actually, he should contact the NRA and then a lawyer that the NRA refers him to. I suspect that this professor's contacting the campus PD may be "actionable" because it sure sounds like harrasment to me.

However, I still question the wisdom of permitting students with no combat training to carry on campus. Anytime I see some report about a police firefight it always seems that most of the shots fired by the cops miss, and they do receive some combat training. There is a big difference between punching holes in paper at the range and shooting at someone who is shooting at you. I have a bad feeling that permitting students to carry might result in a lot of "friendly fire" casualties. However, if there were any ex special ops military personel attending college, I would strongly endorse letting them carry.

Horse hockey!

I think you should "rethink" that. I served in the military, didn't see any combat but had firearms training. Assuming that I hadn't, would that mean I was not capable of carrying a concealed handgun for self defense? I fully know my capabilities. I know the difference between being able to make a "safe shot", i.e. one that doesn't endanger someone else. I think your qualifications for someone to carry is just a bit out of line.

Yes, I know some people are just plain dangerous when they have a gun in their hands, however we are talking about a life endangering situation where someone must defend their life. They didn't start it. Hopefully they can finish it.

Who would you rather "have the gun?" The good guy or the bad guy. Either way may have a down side but not permitting the "good guy" to carry can only go one way.

I'll take my chances with the good guy any day.
 
Originally posted by Gutpile Charlie:
Originally posted by scooter123:
Actually, he should contact the NRA and then a lawyer that the NRA refers him to. I suspect that this professor's contacting the campus PD may be "actionable" because it sure sounds like harrasment to me.

However, I still question the wisdom of permitting students with no combat training to carry on campus. Anytime I see some report about a police firefight it always seems that most of the shots fired by the cops miss, and they do receive some combat training. There is a big difference between punching holes in paper at the range and shooting at someone who is shooting at you. I have a bad feeling that permitting students to carry might result in a lot of "friendly fire" casualties. However, if there were any ex special ops military personel attending college, I would strongly endorse letting them carry.

Horse hockey!
I think you should "rethink" that. I served in the military, didn't see any combat but had firearms training. Assuming that I hadn't, would that mean I was not capable of carrying a concealed handgun for self defense? I fully know my capabilities. I know the difference between being able to make a "safe shot", i.e. one that doesn't endanger someone else. I think your qualifications for someone to carry is just a bit out of line.

Yes, I know some people are just plain dangerous when they have a gun in their hands, however we are talking about a life endangering situation where someone must defend their life. They didn't start it. Hopefully they can finish it.

Who would you rather "have the gun?" The good guy or the bad guy. Either way may have a down side but not permitting the "good guy" to carry can only go one way..

Yup, me too.
 
He should sue her and the school, and the ACLU should be knocking on his door to do so, but I won't hold my breath.
 
Ah, academia.

Ok, I'll preface my statement with the fact that I hit stuff with pieces of wood for a living so why should my opinion matter? Couldn't tell ya.

All I can say is that somewhere there's a seriously wealthy sheep farmer because he just continues to crank 'em out and turn 'em loose on american college campusses.
 
We have to be careful in letting them "allow" us to protect ourselves with a level of training. Soon no one will meet the training requirements.

The deterrant is that the criminal knows there may be someone armed to resist them. That fact will stop most of these cowards.
 
Being shot at is different for everybody. The first time someone shot at me he was too far away to be effective but what was weird is that everything slowed down to a dreamy, thick thing like walking thru a deep swimming pool. I'm not a smart fast thinker and obviously words are not my strong point but when important things like bullets happen my mind and decision making process change. It is almost like I have extra time to decide, drop, go right, can I get there, is someone over there going to get a better line on me. Other people tell me they don't even know what happened at first they just reacted but here they are standing in front of me as a survivor.
I sometimes wonder if my reactions are because I was still young enough to think I was invincible.
Back to the point, I think we all should be armed and ready because you never know when a situation will come up. My youngest daughter will be leaving for collage soon and I think if she were to be killed at school I would rather have it by a misplaced round fired by a person fighting back meant for the nut job but missed, instead of from the nut job walking around unopposed executing anyone hiding under a desk. I guess that is because I personally would rather make my last stand behind my gun instead of cowering under a desk.
 
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