RE: Krav Maga Training

I practiced Tae Kwon Do for 5 or 6 years several years ago and then I fell out of it.

As I've gotten older I've realized the most likely self defense scenario is probably going to involve my fighting someone off while I'm trying to get my gun out and at my age and with my physical challenges I'm not ready to square up and start throwing round house kicks with some 20 something crack head.

A week or two back my church brought in a former member of the security team who teaches martial arts to teach our security team some very basic self defense techniques that can be used with out years of practice.

Long story short I talked to him after the training session and he teaches a martial art called Silat which based on the training session I attended is something an Alter Kocker like me can do. His classes are 50 bucks a month and he teaches a basic self defense class on Thursdays
 
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Kanewpadle said:
It would be difficult to find out what martial arts is all about in six months or less. But I still wouldn't pay for six months up front.

Most martial art styles require you to be up close and personal with your attacker. Some folks never get used to that and don't like it at all.

And martial arts is not something you do half way. Either you do or you don't.

Also, what goes on between the ears is of utmost importance. Knowing when and how to use martial arts will keep you from getting hurt.

And last, good technique is important. But quickness in your thinking and your feet and hands is just as important.
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I couldn't agree more that being tied down for six months when my only interest is learning how to use the Kobotan, seems a risky investment. I think you should be allowed to try first month without a contract. but even so 159 a month is a lot. I think pepper spray is my preferred method of non lethal than having to use my fists
 
mrdemal said:
Being proficient in a martial art does wonders for for self-esteem. Well worth it.
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Totally true. I took various martial arts for years. If it wasn't for arthritis, and the continued high cost, I'd still be doing it.

Knowing martial arts, one or more, is very beneficial in many situations. You'll look at possible opponents very differently and, actually, you'll learn how to avoid confrontations as well.

But it doesn't replace your gun, except in places where your gun is not permitted.

***GRJ
 
Brooklyn street fighting.

Knee to groin.
Punch to solar plexus.
Smash opponents face into ground when they fall.

Non lethal, yet very satisfying against bad guy.

Didn't cost a cent to learn.

Over in 10 seconds. :D
 
did the cane training thing, since I need one to walk anyway. any martial type training at this age and condition simply isn't feasible. cane can be quite a weapon, especially when the attacker isn't expecting it. usually over by the time they figure it out. a gun is still my primary means and don't go where I can't carry one.
 
Krav Magda

Krav Magda seems to be very practical and effective for defending against close attack. It seems closer to the 'real thing' than any single martial art style. My boy took Tae Kwondo for years at $35-50 an hour so the money you are talking about is nil. He got to red belt level and can really take care of himself. I think any martial art that is centered on self defense rather than style teaches pretty much the same things, they just emphasize different parts of the body. Like carrying a gun, it's advantageous as long as you know what you are doing.

PS: I was trying to find the right words, so I looked up Krav Maga. You can learn a lot of effective techniques quickly. The people that train for police, combat, whatever, get proficient quickly and don't have to train for years. I tried a few basics and think that any level of training is better than none.
 
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And always remember you can't "tap out" on the street. That's why i still have my .25
 
martial arts are both eastern & western.
A lot of fights have been ended with a straight right & left hook.
ben around for years & still works.
 
Stu1205 said:
Brooklyn street fighting.

Knee to groin.
Punch to solar plexus.
Smash opponents face into ground when they fall.

Non lethal, yet very satisfying against bad guy.

Didn't cost a cent to learn.

Over in 10 seconds. :D
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You need to get into confrontations with shorter people so they fall to the ground quicker. 10 seconds can be a loooong :eek: time in a physical confrontation. Where are their buddies? Bullies usually come in groups.
 
Kanewpadle said:
It would be difficult to find out what martial arts is all about in six months or less. ...

And martial arts is not something you do half way. Either you do or you don't.

Also, what goes on between the ears is of utmost importance.
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6 months or a year is useless if you need the skills tomorrow. Find a type of skillset that can be learned fairly fast and then honed with practice. This leaves out most martial arts.

My preference is TFT or Target Focus Training, devised by Tim Larkin. Its pricey, but a weekend course gives you a good basis that you can use on Monday and still improve on with practice.

The biggest thing you'll learn, though, are not the skills...its the mindset, the difference between a social, anti-social, and asocial response. When it comes to your life or the lives of loved ones you better be willing to revert to the third.
 
bhayles said:
6 months or a year is useless if you need the skills tomorrow. Find a type of skillset that can be learned fairly fast and then honed with practice. This leaves out most martial arts.
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That's an interesting point of view. The thing is, there's no reason to avoid one kind of training just because you can't learn it in a day. Any kind of martial training will require more than that to be good at it. This includes shooting and empty hand self-defense.
 
Id say take some type of self defense. Any is better than none. Im a black bely tae kwon do, i doubt ill ever get a kick in if i ever get into a street fight, but it also taught you how to dodge and move. It would be interesting though, most people would expect punches and if you were to kick, well that might be an advantage.

Anyways i say do it. Always good to have secondary set of skills than relying on an item you may not have. Shouldnt just depend on the gun. If guns were key the military or police wouldnt teach hand to hand tactics(its also taught to increase self confidence)
 
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When I was in the Marine Corp's the close Combat Instructor taught Us that Style will get You killed and just taught Us how to win a Fight fast.
How many of You Marines here remember choking out Your Partner in Class?
I did that to some drunk that would not leave Me alone one night in a Bar,It only took a couple of seconds to put Him to sleep,I got a lot of respect and free drinks that night.
Now if the Guy would have had a Gun I would have been heading for the Hill's.
I think that Everyone should be able to defend Themselves and taking a good self defense course is a good idea.
 
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