Remington model 11 re-stocked?

[chaparrito]

Looking at a supposedly '47 vintage Model 11 in 12 gauge. My similarly aged one in 16 has the standard straight non-cheekpiece stock. Seller can't verify whether the stock is original or not but I'm thinking not. Also not crazy about the ugly choke deal but that's a separate issue.
Anyone know if such a stock was OEM to these that old?

 

[35Rem]

Definitely NOT original. Neither is that rib. If the barrel has a choke marking (FULL, MOD, IMP CYL, etc) that Weaver choke is not factory either.

 

[JayCeeNC]

It looks more like a rifle stock than a shotgun stock.
Some shotgun manufacturers offered a higher comb on Trap models, but I've not seen a factory shotgun stock in that configuration before.

 

[chaparrito]

My thoughts exactly. Wish I could find a decent one in 12.
thanks!

 

[35Rem]

My thoughts exactly. Wish I could find a decent one in 12.
thanks!

Plenty out there. You look at Gunbroker?

 

[kenv1950]

All original Model 11 Ser.no. dates it before 1920...
It's been laying around in the safe for years.

 

[gwpercle]

Looks like a Herter's Model Perfect Roll-Over Cheekpiece Stock with full grip,

they sold a standard model , one with the roll-over cheek piece and one that has a Monte Carlo cheek piece.
In 1968, in custom American walnut ( select was cheaper), the butt stock sold for $8.25 and the fore end was $6.75 , total $15.00.
I miss Herter's just for their stocks !
So, to answer your question, not factory. That's what was done in the 1960's to fix up your old shotgun, rib , fancy new stock and the choke... the Cutts Compensator with those choke tubes was top of the line then....think of your gun as "retro" , I think it looks cool, except for the bulky roll over cheek piece thing....I planed them back on all my stocks for a more slimmer look. Never thought to put one on a shotgun !
Gary

 

[OFT II]

I like the looks of that stock but I bet that it would be a little rough on the jawbone after a few rounds.

 

[THE PILGRIM]

Never saw a stock like that on a shotgun.
Back when - lots of folks added aftermarket adjustable chokes.
Some folks added ven ribs.
Nobody that I was ever around added a stock like that!
I also miss Herters - I miss their catalog!
It was a hoot!

 

[Drm50]

Remington did offer factory installed chokes. I don't know which
brands off had, Cutts was one. Look on barrel for choke markings. If no markings probably factory installed. I agree that
stock is Herters.

 

[DWalt]

Today, it seems that most Model 11s have some type of owner-installed adjustable choke device on them, although Remington did install them on new guns by special order. I have heard that Remington sent barrels out for choke installation when ordered, and didn't do that in-house. Stocks are fairly plentiful. Not too long ago, I think Numrich was selling new stocks which they advertised as fitting both the Remington M11 and the Savage 720. I have understood that most Savage and Remington parts will interchange, and even some of the Browning A-5 parts. I think they were made from the same drawings.

 

[chaparrito]

Appreciate the info. On a separate note, I haven't shot my 16 gauge 11 since college. It was my father's. Just recently the boy and I have been talking about getting back into bird hunting. Specifically, we are infested with invasive Eurasian Ringneck doves. They are fat, slow and easy to shoot. Tasty too. The state has declared no limit and year round open season. Would there be any issues at all in using an older M11 with modern ammo? In other words, could it be a frequent shooter? I'd love a 12 as 16 is so hard to come by and I want to keep dad's gun as pristine as possible.

 

[35Rem]

cabela's for ammo. Herters brand.
Yes, the Model 11 is a modern gun. Just stay away from steel shot.
Set it for heavy loads and check function. If it works, leave it there. You can damage it shooting it on a lighter setting than required
If you are on Facebook, I have a Model 11 page.
https://www.facebook.com/Remington-Model-11-115137521997221/

 

[DWalt]

I'll add a small caution. Prior to 1927, the standard chamber length for the 16 gauge was 2-9/16", afterward it became 2-3/4". It is not recommended that the longer shell should be fired in a short chamber. Many earlier owners just had the chamber lengthened when the change occurred, which is a very simple job if you have the correct chamber reamer. Alternatively, you can reload shells which have been trimmed shorter. Note that the shell length is the FIRED shell length, not the loaded shell length. Could be your M11 is later, thus no problem. Also, modern plastic shells may actually have fired shell lengths which are short enough. I have noted that phenomenon to exist with some plastic 20 gauge shells.

 

[35Rem]

NO Model 11 was made with a short chamber. Ever.

Add: No Remington repeater was made with short chambers.

 

[Drm50]

For the birds you are going after all you need is # 7 1/2 target
loads. Wally-World has them in 100pk, fairly cheap. (12&20g)
16g little harder to come by, but same type of load as 12 g.
Heavy loads not necessary for birds.

 

[2152hq]

12ga M11's usually go begging for owners around here (N/East) if any alterations done to them. But some great 'shooters' can certainly be bought if you're not that hung up on looks and originality.
A sharp rasp would return the OP gun to a decent looking field style butt stock with little work.
The Remingtons have a fibre washer riveted to the back inside wall of the rec'vr to buffer the shock of the bolt. Something the FN original never had and the Belgians never thought it needed.
The fibre material gets brittle with age and many are cracked and disintegrated in the guns now.
The fact that they had the feature originally begs for replacement which isn't all that easy but not impossible. But the other side says why bother when the Belgian A5 never had one to begin with. Take your pick I guess.

I wouldn't put a whole lot into the OP gun w/o first looking around and seeing what a cleaner one is bringing. You might be surprised at what you can get for the $$ in a M11 Rem 12ga field grade.
JMHO of course..