That is an exaggeration.
Rethinking your carry choice in light of the riots.
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That is an exaggeration.
Ziggy2525
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I'm not expecting you to be outraged. From your previous posts, it's exactly what I expected.
But you did make a blanket statement
It's not, but yet there he is. Mr. Felon with his gun in hand. Unable to let the gun go because of tendon and ligament damage to his arm. The image captured in real-time.
And yet you're still unable to admit you were wrong.
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I was one of those Vet Nam vet's (loadmaster on C-141's flying supplies in and caskets back) that protested after discharge. Try spending 24 hours in the back of a cargo plane with dozens of caskets going home to devestated families to make one consider the what and why.
And what part of the protest marches with hundreds of thousands of protestors the past few years have you missed? Or the 19 dead after two weeks of protesting in Minnesota?
'whiny and sniveling'..cuts both ways.
kbm6893
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So if the lawyer for the felon can pull some legal trick to get the video not admitted, it means it doesn't exist so it never happened?
I wonder how you'd feel if there was a video showing a felon with a gun in his hand or waistband as you or one of your colleagues shot him, but because he somehow managed to convince a judge ( we ALL know judges are ALWAYS impartial, right?) to not admit it into evidence, you'd be cool with that? 41 years down the drain? Goodbye pension, retirement, rest of your life?
It's staring you right in the face. The video is everywhere. You posted the complaint. It doesn't mention the gun, as you said it would if it existed. The felon has not been arrested. There's no way around it.
They went heavy on the kid and light on the thug to placate the mob.
I was about to weigh in here with my two cents but after reading this from LCC I realize my words would just be redundant. LCC, you have made my day. I will go through my day now with hope knowing that there are good, rational people out there that feel as I do. That ratcheting up fears and frustrations with contempt and ill will toward people with differing opinions is not the way to move our nation forward. That coming together with calm, meaningful conversations that include all points of view is the only way we're going to find peace.
Thank you, LCC, for the most amazing post I've read on this or any other website regarding the state of our union.
Court. These issues are handled in court. Where they will have all of the information.
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Another great post. Thanks pennzy.
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But all the facts won't be presented in court, as your posting of the complaint shows. The kid is guilty. The crowd demands it so he will be sacrificed. Anything that supports him will be either ignored altogether or explained away. But you can't explain away the video of the guy with a gun. How do you explain that information not be included in the complaint, or the felon with a gun not being charged?
I am not in charge of explaining anything. That is for the adversarial process before a jury according to rules promulgated under the 5th and 6th Amendments. Anyone with experience in trial courts of general jurisdiction knows the process is not even somewhat simple, and certainly not political. That is not the case with many of the traffic and petty (magistrate, justice of the peace, and municipal) courts.
Nonsense about felony conviction by public acclamation is a waste of keystrokes.
Nonsense about felony conviction by public acclamation is a waste of keystrokes.
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kbm6893
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I'm familiar with the judicial process. I'm familiar with charges being dropped or severely downgraded. You've avoided the question. You stated if one of them were armed, it would be in the complaint. You posted the complaint. You have seen video and pictures that clearly show a gun in the possession of the wounded person. He is a felon and prohibited from possessing a firearm. No charges were filed.
Portland:
Hundreds of Portland protesters will see their criminal cases dropped as DA announces plan to 'recognize the right to speak''' - oregonlive.com
Pennsylvania:
Charges will be withdrawn in dozens of cases related to protests in Pittsburgh, DA's office says
Texas:
Fort Worth Police Drop Rioting Charges Against Protesters : Live Updates: Protests For Racial Justice : NPR
New York City:
Manhattan DA Announces Blanket Policy of Dropping Charges Against Protesters
And of course we have the Atlanta DA, who charged cops with use of a deadly weapon for pointing tazers at rioters, a week later fires cops from the same department for shooting Rayshard Brooks for stealing and firing a tazer at them, claiming a "taser is NOT a deadly weapon".
Yeah, justice is blind, alright. What makes it to court is most certainly a political issue. The charge of murder for this kid is a joke by itself. No different then the murder charge for Zimmerman in the Trayvon Martin case, or the 4 cops who shot Amadou Diallo, or quite frankly this George Floyd cop. Overcharge to placate the mob.
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At risk of repeating myself, I'll trust the process over any internet rush to judgement. In every case.
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I am in with this line of thinking. Yes it would have been definitely better for all involved for the attacks and shootings to not have happened.
Fact is he was there and armed. Is he supposed to let an aggressor get ahold of his weapon? What would happen to you if you tried to take a LEO's weapon? Yes, I know LEO's are paid agents of the state and have a reason to be there.
Then ask yourself what was the intent of the pursuers after the first shooting. What kind of moron chases a man with a rifle who has just shot and wounded/killed someone unless they are heading toward your loved ones.
The facts are the first guy shot was hostile, skateboard guy commited assault with a deadly weapon, and lefty if you take the time to research you will find he stops his advance when the rifle starts to come up, thats the picture where his hands are up and you see the pistol in his hand and steps back a half step or so. He then advances again and there is a photo of his bicept vaporizing, in that photo the pistol is angled downward to Kyle's head but it is just to the right of Kyle's head from "Lefty's" point of view. My belief is he was going to shoot him in the head. Kyle was very restrained, he did not shoot lefty a second time even though lefty was still holding a pistol and other non aggressor's were not shot even though they were in close proximity.
A police officer would have shot lefty many times...and been justified in doing so.
Shoulda, coulda, woulda, he put himself there and he will pay a price certainly. I believe the young man performed admirably in the situation he put himself in.
The real villians in this IMO are the politicians not doing their duty to use rdsources to try and control the situation.
wheelgun28
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People that don't get any information other than Pravda might find this interesting, or not.
Makes a good case to drop all charges on the kid.
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Makes a good case to drop all charges on the kid.
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Armchair psychologist?
kbm6893
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Armchair psychologist?
Funny how the "white supremacist" shot 3 white guys. The first guy was apparently Jewish (judging by his name), but he looked like he just walked off the set of American History X so I doubt Rittenhouse knew that.
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Burn, Loot, Murder, has been taken over by thugs and radicals.
At least one of the ones he put down was a convicted pedophile.
Another was a convicted felon that shouldn't have had guns to begin with.
The third was also a felon that was too stupid to know you don't bring a skateboard to a gunfight.
At least one of the ones he put down was a convicted pedophile.
Another was a convicted felon that shouldn't have had guns to begin with.
The third was also a felon that was too stupid to know you don't bring a skateboard to a gunfight.
Apparently the poster has no clue.
They, the sympathizers of the anarchists, have no argument that stands up. I have yet to hear one of them condemn the rioters for injuries to police and citizenry, or the destruction of public and private property.
The rioters are out there destroying lives, physically and emotionally. You want "change" whatever that means, take your grievances to courts and the legislatures. Civilized people do just that.
The first guy that got shot was a hotheaded fool, previous video of him showed as much. I guess he thought his bark was not going to get called out eventually by someone with a bigger bark.
As far as lives ruined, other than the knuckleheads from Kenosha, how about the injured police and first responders physical well being, some getting hit in the head with bricks and rocks? What about the businesses owned by people who put their life savings and family dreams into them, only to see them burned and looted?
Where's the empathy for those people?
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texmex
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Maybe I should put my Streetsweeper in my truck. Even my shotgun is a revolver.
kbm6893
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Apparently the poster has no clue.
They, the sympathizers of the anarchists, have no argument that stands up. I have yet to hear one of them condemn the rioters for injuries to police and citizenry, or the destruction of public and private property.
The rioters are out there destroying lives, physically and emotionally. You want "change" whatever that means, take your grievances to courts and the legislatures. Civilized people do just that.
The first guy that got shot was a hotheaded fool, previous video of him showed as much. I guess he thought his bark was not going to get called out eventually by someone with a bigger bark.
As far as lives ruined, other than the knuckleheads from Kenosha, how about the injured police and first responders physical well being, some getting hit in the head with bricks and rocks? What about the businesses owned by people who put their life savings and family dreams into them, only to see them burned and looted?
Where's the empathy for those people?
They don't need empathy. The courts will take care of them.
Oh, wait. They won't. The charges get dropped. If they even get filed. Like Mr. Felon with a Gun.
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IMO, this doesn't have anything to do with "change." Not that kind of change anyway.
This is a coordinated insurgency. The insurgents hijacked a legitimate social justice movement to give themselves cover. Their goal is to destabilize the government. The change they want can't happen in the courts and legislature.
IMO, there's a cadre of professional agitators that are leading a group of disaffected people, young adults desperately seeking some kind of relevance along with some assorted felons, to be in their "army." Seems kind of like textbook cold war stuff.
If we don't recognize it as an insurgency and keep trying to treat it as a rowdy, passionate social justice movement, it's not going to end well.
That's how I see it from where I sit anyway.
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