S&W #3 New Model Target

[cwneely]

I think my point was that there were 32 44 Tgts chambered for the .320 rifle ctg. 32 20 brass is too short.

 

[Oyeboteb]

I think my point was that there were 32 44 Tgts chambered for the .320 rifle ctg. 32 20 brass is too short.

What Post are you replying to?

Yes, 32 - 20 Brass is too short as is, to be expanded for use as .320 RR Cartridges.


How-ever, one could use the lower ( below the neck down ) portion of one .32 - 20 Cartridge to slip over and be soldered on to another cut down .32 - 20 Cartridge, leaving say about 3/16ths of an inch of the neck-down, in order for the Body section to slip over it and be soldered...to then be trimmed and or expanded as needed to have the right length for .320 RR, and room for the Bullet...so if one wished to go about it in this way, one could use .32 - 20 Brass, by lengthening it in this telescopic way.


.32 - 20 Brass may be shortened and expanded to serve as a very good stand in for .32 - 44 Brass with no other modification than to be shortened and expanded a little.

 

[BMur]

32 Ideal

Phil,cwneely,
The only available case still manufactured that I am aware of that would work for the 320 Revolving rifle is the old 32 Ideal case. It's actually a bit long and would have to be trimmed down but that's it. All other dimensions fit perfectly. They are $4 a pop though.

Murph

 

[Oyeboteb]

Phil,cwneely,
The only available case still manufactured that I am aware of that would work for the 320 Revolving rifle is the old 32 Ideal case. It's actually a bit long and would have to be trimmed down but that's it. All other dimensions fit perfectly. They are $4 a pop though.

Murph

.32 Winchester Self-Loading also...or would only need a little shortening and to be expanded a tiny bit.

It also is a difficult or expensive Cartridge to find Brass for.

 

[Oyeboteb]

I suppose that article proves the Target new model 3 can shoot 1 1/4" groups from a " Machine Rest" at 50 yards. To be fair, a machine rest is not unlike mounting the frame to a solid mounted Bench Vice to completely eliminate recoil and drift. It also removes human error.
Photo 1 is a typical bench rest.
Photo 2 & 3 are Machine rests.

I think that there are a lot of long barrel antique revolvers that would Also shoot extremely well from a machine rest at 50 yards.
Even a 6 inch barrel 38 Smith & Wesson top break of any model would shoot extremely well at 50 yards when mounted in a vice!

At least this article possibly proves what "the gun" is capable of with the original black powder loads.

Now all we have to do is locate a human being that can mimic a Cement statue with a hand grip like a Mechanical vice, eyes of an eagle , and bone structure like a gorilla and we have found our target master! LOL.

Murph

Back then I think, and since, 50 Yard Bullseye Shooting, one is not actually rigid or tense or machine like, one has to be relaxed and merely steady and breathing naturally...and steady is not like Iron, it is actually kind of rubbery.

One fires as the Sight Picture is moving on to, or is in process of approaching what one wants...as it is impossible to be entirely "locked on" even if one wanted to...the Sight Picture of the Hand Gun is wavering and bobbing with one's Heartbeat, and respiration...any lateeral Breeze also moves one's Arm a tiny bit, etc.

This may not sound like what we would expect, but all this modern day 'animatronic-esque' super locked in rigid "Combat Shooting" stance stuff with Hand Guns, no one shot that way back when...nor have I ever shot that way.

The times I was doing 50 Yard, one Hand, old time, Service Revolver or Commercial Automatic Shooting, I was relaxed and 'rubbery' and minded my natural Breathing ( never holding my Breath ) and minding my slow, relaxed Heartbeat, so that the lull moment of these may co-incide with the Sight Picture bobbing or weaving on "to", where I wanted my Shot to go.

Done right, it works very well.

I can not really imagine any other way.