S & W 356 TSW Value?

[hdsoftail]

I have been searching the auctions houses to see what the value of these little gems are these days.

From the custom shop and they fire one hot little round. I have almost a full case of corbon ammo that is in the 1450 fps range. The ammo is now worth more that the gun most likely.

Any ideas as to the value of the 3.5" barrel version? I understand they only made 200 of these.

 

[wlp624]

You're right about the .356 TSW ammo being expensive, when you can find it, that is . The 3 1/2" version of the gun (Model 3566 Compact, to be precise) can go anywhere from just under $1000 to well over, depending on condition and accessories. Are you only looking for the compact, or have you thought about the 3566 Limited, with the 5" barrel?

 

[XPman]

I have been searching the auctions houses to see what the value of these little gems are these days.

From the custom shop and they fire one hot little round. I have almost a full case of corbon ammo that is in the 1450 fps range. The ammo is now worth more that the gun most likely.

Any ideas as to the value of the 3.5" barrel version? I understand they only made 200 of these.

Can't help with the values but I have an email from Lew Horton stating...
"Lew Horton's produced two M3566 Special Editions from the S&W Performance Center.
The 3 1/2" barrel model had a run of 300 produced. The 5" model had 125 produced"

I have 2 of the 3 1/2" models that have sn # under 100 and went to sleep and didn't buy up a bunch of ammo, however I have started to shoot one of them and am shooting handloaded 356 Starline brass & and also 9x21s in them, the Std. 9mm Luger can also be shot with the small inner recoil spring removed for a more positive ejection...
Have a good one...XPman...

 

[hdsoftail]

That 5" model is a beauty for sure and to have a set of them would be fun. Might be worth a lot of money down the road a ways.

I have one of the 3 1/2" barrel models and its been in the safe for many years. I have always wondered if it is possible to covert one over to 9mm or 38 super to be able to find ammo to shoot.

I have Starline brass also and can reload using the an extra set of 9mm dies set up on my Dillon.

Been thinking about selling the whole shooting match brass, corbon ammo and the pistol for a nice price so I can get in line for a high end AR and some other hunting rifles. Got to give that some thought.

At current ammo pricing 356 TSW Corbon has got to be going for big money in the right market. What would 1,000 rounds of 1450 fps Corbon sell for?

Your thoughts?

 

[TANKER]

I would think the 9x23 would be a better choice than the Super. It is rimless, tapered like a 9mm, and at 23mm only two mm longer than 356 TSW case. Plus the walls are very thick, about three times thicker than 38 Super brass. SAAMI MAP for 9x23 is 55,000 psi. I shoot 9x23 in my 38 Supers with excellent results. 147 gr XTP at 1250 fps. Reloading data is hard to find but 356TSW data would be a good start I would think.

 

[TANKER]

I would think the 9x23 would be a better choice than the Super. It is rimless, tapered like a 9mm, and at 23mm only two mm longer than 356 TSW case. Plus the walls are very thick, about three times thicker than 38 Super brass. SAAMI MAP for 9x23 is 55,000 psi. I shoot 9x23 in my 38 Supers with excellent results. 147 gr XTP at 1250 fps. Reloading data is hard to find but 356TSW data would be a good start I would think. Grafs and Midway sell 9x23 brass, and Starline sells 9mm Supercomp which is supposed to be identical but gets around Winchesters trade marked 9x23 Winchester name.

 

[wlp624]

Two barrels (9mm and .356) are available for both the 5" and the 3 1/2" models of the 3566. S&W used to offer the conversion, but I don't know if they still do. My 3 1/2" came with both barrels when I bought it from another forum member (semper cop, Louie!) a while back. You may be able to find a 9mm barrel for it if you look hard enough. The .356 TSW ammo generally runs a thoroughly ridiculous $70 or $80 a box. I was able to get a case of it for about half that as part of the deal when I bought the 5", but generally the price stays in the stratosphere because that stuff isn't manufactured any more.

 

[tjpopkin]

In fact there were FIVE (5) .356 TSW guns produced by the Performance Center. The 3.5", the 4", and the 5" in both the Tactical and the Briley Race Gun Configuration. In addition, the 940 Pocket Rocket, a ported 5-shot J frame in .356TSW.
The 4" was the most limited and was a "stocking Dealer" exclusive (hence the "SD" designation. I had barrels fitted by the Performance Center in 9mm. The 3.5 in TSW has a 4.25" threaded 9mm barrel....very quiet!!

Terry

 

[z4lunch]

Steve here... I bought my 3566 Limited last
Month from a local guy ftf. I paid $1000
For it like new in box with three mags and
The cheezy owners manual. I too reload
This using trimmed down 9x23 Winchester brass
It works well
Steve

 

[sop]

I saw on of these last Sunday at Shooters GS in Jacksonville, Florida. I believe it was the "SD 356 TSW" version pictured above. They were asking $995, but their used gun prices are always significantly discounted from the asking prices. I asked to see it and handled it for a while, it was in excellent condition overall, but, since I had no interest in actually buying the gun, I didn't ask whether it came with the original box or any extra mags.

 

[tjpopkin]

About 1 year ago, I found a shop in California that had 20,000 rounds of .356TSW...Federal Hydroshok in 135gr. & 147gr.; also they had Corbon in 125gr. I bought 1000 of each and I actually found 1000 pieces of new brass. I am pretty much set.
The reloads with VV3N37 are remarkable, but all these loads are fairly hot. For reduced loads, I insert the 9mm barrels and I use 5gr.VV N330 with a 125gr. Mt.Gold JHP....incredible accuracy.
Terry

 

[wlp624]

Terry, your pics sure class up the forum! Makes it sorta like GQ for guns

 

[Carnage_7]

Looks like one of the pistols shooting .356 is missing-the S&W Super 9-another rare offering by S&W primarily targeted at the European IPSC shooters with a few pistols left for US shooters. I was able to buy one from another collector. Anyway the pistol came with 3 barrels: 1) 9mm; 2) 9x21, and .356 TSW.

 

[hdsoftail]

Thanks for that great information guys. Great pictures and suggested options for reloading and sources of brass.

My Corbon Ammo is darn hot stuff:

20 boxes of 125 gr JHP at 1400 fps

40 boxes of 124 gr BHP at 1400 fps and 1450 fps

I think I have 2K or so brass also so I am good to go.

Like that idea of trimming down the 9x23 to work and the 9mm barrel option.

My gosh, 60 boxes of ammo at $70 to 80 a box would be well over 4K. Thats a ton, plus a grand for the gun. Have to give that some serious thought. I suspect the wise sale would be to bundle it all and give someone a fair deal.

 

[InTheNet]

Newbie here(can you tell 1st post).

I own 4 of the 5 above pictured 356tsw models (No Briley) all brand new never fired. I have been toying with the idea of getting 9mm barrels for the 3 semi autos but am wondering if maybe I should put them up for sale.
I am not really a shooter, at one time started to collect a few. Now would mainly look at these as something to pass down to my kids who really do not have much interest in them.

Ammo is hard to come by, I have 1000 rounds plus 4000 round of brass. This is why I would get the 9mm barrel.

Do i sell and buy a 9mm whatever for the home? Keep these? Will value go up much if any?

Any input is great. (I also have a glock in 356

 

[bad_man_ one]

I also have a couple in .356 TSW / 9mm

I had the opportunity to get into a small spot on the table of the CNC Vertical Machining Center and did some whittling.
This one is my .356 TSW Limited that I did the conversion on to 9 mm.
This extension is similar to the one I made for the 20 rd mag for the "Wesman Custom"
Regards,
BM1

Clickey here - http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-...s/237872-elusive-wesman-5906-5903-custom.html
Shown in this one photo with the curved back grip :

Shown in this one photo with the straight back grip :

 

[ARCQB]

I am a bit confused at all of the options for the .356TSW, which is 9X21.5. I purchased a couple thousand rounds of brass from Starline and when I purchased a Dillon die for the 1050 it was in fact a std 9X19. Guess I never paid attention as to how the case chambers. My .38 super uses Super comp brass to feed more reliably from double stack mags but I didn't think it would chamber in the .356. Looks like I have to do a bit more homework.