S&W 686 info ?

Beerman

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No "M" stamp means no recall? Correct. Should I send it in or not worry about it? Is the no dash a desirable gun or not, I havent fired this one as it looks in almost new shape and was handed down to me. Also what's the "v" stand for? Thanks for any info.


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Sending it back for the modification is a choice. Not everyone chooses to. I don't think it really effects value, either way. If it was going to be a self defense gun it might be advisable. Because the "M" mod addresses a potential reliability issue.

I'm not sure exactly what the "V" stands for. Though I've seen a bunch of them. I think it's likely it's an inspector's mark. The cylinder "V" mark (an other letters) is seen on many Smiths from this era. It's not just a M686 thing.

Did the original box come with this gun?
 
No "M" stamp means no recall? Correct. Should I send it in or not worry about it? Is the no dash a desirable gun or not, I havent fired this one as it looks in almost new shape and was handed down to me. Also what's the "v" stand for? Thanks for any info.

Correct. No M-stamp means the factory hasn't yet modified the revolver to address the recall.

I have a 686 no-dash 2.5" barrel with factory combats. I conceal-carry this revolver and as such, made sure it was returned to the factory for the mod.

It has been an excellent revolver. Accurate & reliable. No complaints what so ever. I load it with factory 158-gr JHP ammo, either Remington or Winchester.

By all means, make sure you shoot that revolver! There is no reason not to.
Shoot it, take care of it, and it will last a lifetime and more!
 
I had the same question before I bought a 586 no dash not too long ago. I have fired about 500 rounds of different factory .357 through it with no issues so I am not sending mine in for modification. I am not a LEO nor am I carrying it for self defense. If it ever binds up at the range I may consider it. I found this post on another forum regarding the recall.

"SMITH & WESSON
MODEL 581, 586, 681, 686, or 581-1,
586-1, 681-1, 686-1 & 686CS-1, REVOLVERS

RECALL: Reports have been received from the field where the combination of a SMITH & WESSON L-FRAME 357 MAGNUM REVOLVER and some .357 Magnum ammunition has resulted in unacceptable cylinder binding. L-frame revolvers bearing model numbers:

581, 586, 681, 686, or 581-1, 586-1,
681-1, 686-1, 686CS-1

Cylinder binding can cause a failure to fire. Mishandling a revolver while freeing the cylinder can result in accidental discharge.

Cylinder binding can result from a number of causes, including characteristics of an individual revolver or the use of ammunition, which does not conform to industry pressure specifications or is particularly fast burning. Recent developments in ammunition manufacture emphasize the production of .357 Magnum ammunition with increased velocity and greater primer sensitivity.

Although there have been very few reported incidents of cylinder binding, in view of our concern for our customer's safety and the reliability of Smith & Wesson products in all circumstances, we issue the following warning:

In a situation where a failure to fire can be critical - such as law enforcement or personal protection - do not use .357 Magnum ammunition with an L-frame revolver bearing model numbers 581, 586, 681, 686 or 581-1, 586-1, 681-1, 686-1, 686CS-1 without an "M" over the model number until you have had the revolver modified.

Those who need to use their L-frame revolver under these conditions prior to modification can safely fire .38 Special caliber ammunition.

Smith & Wesson has developed a modification to improve existing L-frame revolvers. This improvement enables them to fire all .357 Magnum ammunition, without cylinder binding. Shipments of L-frame revolvers from our factory after August 21, 1987 already include this improvement.

You can check if your revolver includes this improvement by looking at the left side of the frame when the cylinder is fully open. If your revolver has been stamped either with a "2" or higher number after the basic three-digit model number or with an "M" above the model number, your revolver includes this improvement and does not need modification. If your revolver bears the model number 581, 586, 681, 686, or 581-1, 586-1, 681-1, 686-1, 686CS-1 without an "M" over the model number, it does not include this improvement and your should have your revolver modified.

Smith & Wesson will modify your L-frame revolver free of charge to eliminate the possibility of cylinder binding with .357 Magnum ammunition. Law enforcement agencies wishing to arrange for modification of L-frame revolvers should call 800-458-8469 between 9 A.M. and 6 P.M. Eastern time (MA residents call 413-734-8244). Other users should send their revolvers to a Smith & Wesson Warranty Service Center, specifying "L-frame improvement program" and enclosing their name and return address.

One of the modifications to improve the L-frame revolver is the installation of a new hammer nose. This obsoletes all old L-frame hammer noses (part numbers 4702 and 7513) and all old L-frame hammer assemblies (part numbers 3366, 3378, 3380, 3382, 3391, 4722, 4723, 4726 and 4728) in field parts inventories. Superseded parts should never be fitted into a modified revolver as this may result in malfunction. It is essential for safety that you return these obsolete L-frame hammer noses and obsolete L-frame hammer assemblies for a free exchange to:

Smith & Wesson
Service Department
2100 Roosevelt Avenue
Springfield, MA 01101

Do not return L-frame hammer-nose bushings from your spare parts inventory inasmuch as they are useable in J, N and K-frame revolvers, which are not included in this Product Warning.

We regret any inconvenience this may cause. Smith & Wesson's first concern is the safety of its products and the protection of its customers."
 
I also have a 686 no dash no M stamp. I have shot 357's & no problem either. I also examined the primers after shooting & they were fine. Mine is a 6" range gun.
 
S&W 686 info ?

Well I had planned on possibly using it as a sidearm for protection while hunting as we have bears on the property. My dilemma is I have a 686-6 Pro Series and one of them has to go to fund another project. So I guess if kept it needs to go in for recall. I've been eyeing those 329PDs.

In your opinion what 686 would you keep? The Pro or the Original. There are things I like about both guns, the Pro is lighter, the original has white outlined rear sight (seems to help me with acquiring target quicker), lock vs no lock (if that's even an issue) etc etc.

So Pro :

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Or Original:

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Easy choice for me. I'd keep the original, but I would find some OEM period correct factory target stocks for it. In regards to the Pro. it's just my preference, but I don't care much for the look of the Pro, and it has nothing to do with the hole. Fine gun, I'm sure but not my cup of tea.

On the original post question. I have two no "M" guns. One is a Md 681 and the other is a 686 no dash. Both function perfectly with standard factory ammo. I have no plan to send either of them back.
 
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On the original post question. I have two no "M" guns. One is a Md 681 and the other is a 686 no dash. Both function perfectly with standard factory ammo. I have no plan to send either of them back.



Im only going to be shooting factory ammo. Guess if I keep it I'll shoot it and see if any issues as it seems many aren't too worried about the fix. Thanks for the info.
 
S&W Modification is a FUNCTIONAL Fix

Im only going to be shooting factory ammo. Guess if I keep it I'll shoot it and see if any issues as it seems many aren't too worried about the fix. Thanks for the info.

I'm sorry, but if you plan on actually shooting your 686, IMO you should have it Modified by S&W. I bought my 686 in 1986 and had it modified within six months of purchase.

The modification in question, is a FUNCTIONAL modification and NOT a cosmetic one. Just saying...
 
I HAVE SEVERAL NO-DASH MODEL 686s. THE ONLY ONE THAT I SENT IN FOR THE MODIFICATION IS A 2 1/2" REVOLVER THAT I CARRY FOR PERSONAL PROTECTION. I PURCHASED THAT REVOLVER USED, AND IT WAS OPERATING W/O A PROBLEM. I SENT IT IN TO SIMPLY GIVE MYSELF PEACE OF MIND. MY OTHER NO-DASH 686s HAVE NOT BEEN MODIFIED, AND THEY HAVE FUNCTIONED FLAWLESSLY, THROUGH THOUSANDS OF ROUNDS. THEY ARE FIELD AND RANGE GUNS……

UNLESS YOU INTEND TO USE YOUR NO-DASH FOR SELF DEFENSE, OR HOME DEFENSE, THERE REALLY IS NO NEED TO SEND YOUR REVOLVER IN……..
 
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Beerman: I bought my 686-0 back in '81 (CS-1). Even w/out high pwr 357s, the cylinder bound up sumthin fierce! Sent it in thru a S&W warranty gun shop & got it back w/o any explanation. It was worth it.
Hank M.
 
I always bring up my two no dash 686s when this topic comes up. My 4" was inherited from my dad who bought it new in Sept. 1981. That would bind and it was sent back in, no problems since. The other was a 2.5" from Nov. 1984 (Lew Horton distrbuted it) I bought this past February. It worked fine with every brand of .357 ammo I tried (all the major companies). I recently sold that gun and had absolute faith in it.
 
I would shoot the gun with your on hand ammo, if it binds and it bothers you send it in for the mod.
If not wait till the gun needs a tuneup and S&W will do that for free at the same time, your decision.

BTW.....You have a wild bear problem in Stuart ?
 
S&W 686 info ?

BTW.....You have a wild bear problem in Stuart ?



Thanks guys, I'm gonna shoot it and see for this hunting season, but it is for protection in a way, if it binds Im sending it in, may send in after season regardless as I have to have some faith in it. I sold the pro series so this is the one I'm going with.

No wild bear prob in Stuart, but on my hunting lease in Greenville, FL they are there!!! Have cam pics of them..
 
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