School bans all black outfits ...
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fiasconva
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Who thinks this stuff up?? 
Some administrators obviously have way too much time on their hands.
Some administrators obviously have way too much time on their hands.
LVSteve
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When I was at high school in the UK, my school started to 'discourage' the girls from wearing sheer, black, hosiery. It was considered 'funereal'. Uh-huh. Any student with two brain cells to rub together knew EXACTLY what the agenda was. The punk movement had brought back stockings and garters (AKA suspenders in the UK), and I think the staff were concerned about certain girls and boys taking advantage of the quick access benefits.
They should just go back to banning books.
Reminds me of what my lawyer (agency lawyer) said. If you don't have a case distract the judge/jury by directing them to "the shiny ball." Look at the "shiny ball" and pay no attention to the facts.
That's is what is happening here. Don't blame people, blame things, because we can't hold people accountable.
That's is what is happening here. Don't blame people, blame things, because we can't hold people accountable.
The Last Standing Knight
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As someone who ususally wears all black, I am afraid I must respectfully disagree with those who say schools shouldn't ban certain styles of clothing.
When I started school,girls (and female faculty) were verboten from wearing pants of any kind. Skirts of knee length or lower were the order of the day...although in those days, teachers wearing minis wasn't that uncommon.
Boys wore collared, button down shirts.
Anything else got you sent home or your folks bringing you the proper attire. Those rules were significantly relaxed over time.
For ALL of my time in public school, military style clothing was also verboten unless you were in ROTC or such and then on certain days.
I am personally of the belief that past kindergarten, students should wear uniforms that have the school's name on a patch worn on the right arm. The uniform must be worn for classes and all school functions.
Purpose of school should be education and education only...to that end, a uniform reinforces this and not a fashion or trend. Plus it instills a modicum of pride and discipline.
I am not saying turn schools into military boot camps in the least nor should we go completely overboard like was done when I started public schools. I'd rather see monies go toward this idea than building stadiums that rival the NFL.
Just my $0.02
When I started school,girls (and female faculty) were verboten from wearing pants of any kind. Skirts of knee length or lower were the order of the day...although in those days, teachers wearing minis wasn't that uncommon.
Boys wore collared, button down shirts.
Anything else got you sent home or your folks bringing you the proper attire. Those rules were significantly relaxed over time.
For ALL of my time in public school, military style clothing was also verboten unless you were in ROTC or such and then on certain days.
I am personally of the belief that past kindergarten, students should wear uniforms that have the school's name on a patch worn on the right arm. The uniform must be worn for classes and all school functions.
Purpose of school should be education and education only...to that end, a uniform reinforces this and not a fashion or trend. Plus it instills a modicum of pride and discipline.
I am not saying turn schools into military boot camps in the least nor should we go completely overboard like was done when I started public schools. I'd rather see monies go toward this idea than building stadiums that rival the NFL.
Just my $0.02
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31FordA
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If a kid is depressed I don't think telling them they can't wear black is going to cheer them up. I also doubt that happy kids will suddenly be driven to despair by some kids wearing black. This all seems like the usual garbage from administrators who want to be able to say "Look at us, we did something, aren't we great!".
Sure, the kids may be illiterate, but at least they'll feel good about themselves.
I went to Catholic school for twelve years, so clothes were never a big issue. About the only clothing issue that ever came up was the length of the girls skirts. Usually once a year the girls would get yelled at about their skirts, hems would get lowered for a few weeks, then they would creep up again. I suppose the skirts getting, temporarily, longer may have caused some depression for the guys, but we coped.
Sure, the kids may be illiterate, but at least they'll feel good about themselves.
I went to Catholic school for twelve years, so clothes were never a big issue. About the only clothing issue that ever came up was the length of the girls skirts. Usually once a year the girls would get yelled at about their skirts, hems would get lowered for a few weeks, then they would creep up again. I suppose the skirts getting, temporarily, longer may have caused some depression for the guys, but we coped.
Ivan the Butcher
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Many school administrators are more about "Control" and their self (or system) issued importance than anything like "The rights of the American Citizens" they are supposed to educate!
When they won't face up to their own failures in the education system, then blame it on the clothing, older buildings, or the parents.
Ivan
When they won't face up to their own failures in the education system, then blame it on the clothing, older buildings, or the parents.
Ivan
Grayfox
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Schools haven't provided a proper education in decades. They couldn't care less about the individual. Our whole educational system is focused on producing good liberal sheep who do as they're told. 
I went to a Catholic high school, late 1960s. The nuns were against the girls displaying knees. (The guys were for it, and as high as possible! Heck yeah! Height of the miniskirt era, fortunately for us.)
So what the girls did, they would roll up their uniform skirts when the nuns weren't around, and then roll 'em down when a nun showed up.
Worked pretty well as a common sense solution.
I recall once, sitting in a civics class — you younger fellas will need to look that up — feeling bored and sleepy, when, suddenly, the nun teaching the class, Sister Mary Imaculatta (she was a pistol!), slammed the textbook she was holding down on to her desk, saying, "I won't have this! This disgusting display that I see here every day! I won't have it!"
My classmates and I are looking at each other. WTH? We can't figure out what has got Sister Mary Imaculatta so wound up and upset. Then she says it:
"Knees! This disgusting offering of knees I see before me every day!"
We guys are going, "Really?! What?! Where! Let's take note!"
Course we are all facing forward towards Sister so we couldn't see too well. But I think we all took note and thought we should pay closer attention to what the girls were up to.
God bless 'em, those sisters. They did their best. (But they were, I think we all have to acknowledge, rowing against the tide when it came to boys and girls and their shenanigans ...)
But, let me say this, in praise of a Catholic education and Sister Mary Imaculatta. She told us, in that civics class, something I have never forgotten: "Freedom is the right to do what you ought to do." I didn't understand it at 18. But I do at 73.
Rest in peace, Sister.
The boys are home schooled.
I am pretty lax on dress code.
I am pretty lax on dress code.
The principal is concerned about depression and other mental health issues.
I suspect the majority of kids are not being sufficiently challenged by the curriculum. Boredom is being mislabeled as mental health issues while teachers are forced to teach to those who have been past through the "No Kid Left Behind" system without learning the basics to give them confidence and competence to success at their current grade level.
Education of America's youth has lost its true focus while being directed and funded by political considerations.
I suspect the majority of kids are not being sufficiently challenged by the curriculum. Boredom is being mislabeled as mental health issues while teachers are forced to teach to those who have been past through the "No Kid Left Behind" system without learning the basics to give them confidence and competence to success at their current grade level.
Education of America's youth has lost its true focus while being directed and funded by political considerations.
We need a BOO HISS button
kozmic
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I'm wearing a black golf shirt, black jeans, black socks, black belt and black sneakers today. The only thing currently depressing me is the calapse of our once envied primary educational system.
I have a story sort of similar to yours, but mine was in the late 50s.
I went to a big catholic grade school in Albany NY. Classes were big and the teachers of today would be lost, my class had 65 kids in it. The nun taught all subjects and we spent the whole day in just one classroom.
They had a thing about girls wearing shorts. That was for just regular shorts, the "short shorts" would get the girl and her parents invited to see the principal for a serious discushion. Now understand Sister Delaroita <SPL> the principal took no prisoners.
The school, church and nuns residence was in the middle of a big block with plenty of small shops on both sides of the street, the library, post office right there. The nuns would often go, in pairs naturally and could see a girl in shorts at amazing distances. Most girls knew to get in the house when the nuns were on patrol because they knew the outcome.
I never understood their aversion to shorts, possibly that sweep the floor habit they wore influenced them.
I do know that I figured out early that if the nuns and even the priests were that upset something good was being repressed. Since then I diligently study the subject of short wearing females.
CAJUNLAWYER
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Kids will ALWAYS think of things to do to piss off the adults. WE did it....IN SPADES
Let the little knuckleheads have their fun!
Let the little knuckleheads have their fun!
Just don't wear them to school. You will be all right.
The Last Standing Knight
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I must agree.
Most curiculum (sic) is geared toward political that educational aspects....again, look at the massive sports stadiums being built when bus fleets and facilities are falling apart and teachers get paid pittance.
The kids who want to learn will. The majority though are taught from an early age to expect handouts. Then there are the kids who will tell you why go through all of the educational stuff when one of their friends' drops out and falls in with bad people and drives to school in a brand new BMW? No incentive.
Schools are starting to prohibit smart phones in class (I wonder why....rolling eyes) and tyhe people screaming the loudest againt these policies? THE PARENTS!
The school system has to completely change from the ground up. I don't see that happening.
Huskerguy
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Well, this isn't Steve Jobs now. An dusing Cash as an example is plain ridiculous. I have taught and been an administrator for nearly 40 years. Kids definitely associate clothing with their feelings or personalities to create an identity. Anyone who thinks overwise is not around kids.
There are experts who can walk the halls of a school and spot gang, social symbols and personal choices in dress alone. Sorry, but to compare your examples with what is going in a school is flat out nuts. Oh and you forgot the Lone Ranger. I think he was all black or maybe Paladin.
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Wow, good thread. As for banning certain clothes how about Banning hoodies? Fashion is just plain dumb to wear a sweatshirt hoodie when its over 100! Just what are these idiots proving?
My Dad taught me to wear a collar shirt when going out. I visit our VFW once a week and am about the only one wearing a shirt with collar.
I remember having to wear collar shirts tucked in and girls wearing skirts/ dresses with hem covering their knees in school. Slowly changed in late 60's.
My Dad taught me to wear a collar shirt when going out. I visit our VFW once a week and am about the only one wearing a shirt with collar.
I remember having to wear collar shirts tucked in and girls wearing skirts/ dresses with hem covering their knees in school. Slowly changed in late 60's.
