School Drop-off?

[novalty]

Well I have been getting my gear to conceal carry full time, and the recent "Do you leave your gun in vehicle?" post, got me wondering how I can legally handle when I drop my son off at school in the morning on my way to work? He is a only in kindergarten and where his school is located on a main road with just barely enough breakdown lane I don't feel it is safe leaving him off at the side of the road--this option will get even worse when winter finally arrives and snowbanks pile up. His school is located 15 minutes from my house, and on the way to my work so going back to the house will add an additional half hour of driving time. The only option that I can see as viable would be to lock in the gun in a hard case in the vehicle when I leave the house in the morning, and take it out after leaving the school. But not sure if this goes against State Law of "No Guns on School Property."

 

[Moonman]

You need to find out your STATE LAW.

Ohio Law allows you to drive onto school property to drop
students off, NOT YOUR SPOUSE THOUGH IF THEY'RE A TEACHER, the student.

Do not EXIT the Automobile.

BIG DEAL is this is for a CCW Handgun in OHIO, NO LONG GUNS on
school property (shotguns, rifles), Gun Rack, Trunk, NONE PERIOD.

Hunting season or not, LOADED or UNLOADED.

 

[Lost Lake]

Yes, check your local laws...

In WI the last time I checked, you couldn't have a gun on school property unless it was unloaded, in a case and completely out of reach.

You can be on the main road though, which from your post sounds like your law is like ours.

EDIT: I just reread the WI law and it does say I can carry my gun on school property as long as it is unloaded and in a case. I have called the local police and confirmed that the parking lot is school property, so I must have all guns cased when entering the parking lot.

Wisconsin then confuses the law by stating it is legal to carry a dangerous weapon if: "A person who drives a motor vehicle in which a dangerous weapon is located onto school premises for school sanctioned purposes or for the purpose of delivering or picking up passengers or property if the weapon is not removed from the vehicle or used in any way."

BUT, (the confusing part) they preface this last statement with this one: "a dangerous weapon (other than a firearm or BB or pellet gun) "

So be careful when you read about dangerous weapons, you almost think you are okay, then they change the wording....

 

[williamlayton]

What I think you should do is start off wearing the gun over one weekend---wear it everywhere and keep it on all the time.
This will get you use to it being on you and probably help you not fiddle with it all the time---a dead giveaway that you got a gun on you.
Parking lots are generally considered OK to have in the car.
Now---and you do it your way---I tend to ignor signs and take my chances- It has worked for over 40 years for me.
Get used to totin and then start to deal with the rest.
Blessings

 

[crofoot629]

No such bad laws here in Oregon.

I'd just carry concealed if I were you.

My kids school is one of the most important places for me to carry.

Emory

 

[Moonman]

williamlayton,

That may be OK in Texas, but in Ohio if you

screw up concerning school property or events & firearms,

It's FELONY TIME.

All your Firearms are GONE for real, FOREVER.

 

[Springfeildkid585]

Indiana you must leave your car running and not exit the vehicle, atleast thats what it was last I checked, there was a fairly recent Indiana Supreme Court ruling that made your car private property if the gun isn't in plain view, I don't know if it applies to schools.

 

[novalty]

I've been trying to bring up the Maine State Statute (Title 25 Section 2032) on concealed weapons without success. The paperwork I have from my Concealed Weapons class states: "Although you may possess a valid concealed firearms permit you may not possess a loaded firearm on any kind of public school property." Don't know to what extent the law considers possess. Is it possess, on one's person, or in one's vehicle?

Handgunlaw.us states that a person may not possess a firearm on school property, and references Title 20 Section 6552.

 

[Moonman]

novelty,

Look at it this way, if they found drugs on you or in your automobile,

what do you think they would intrepret POSSESS AS?

 

[aterry33]

First of all, I applaud you for seeking advice on this BEFORE you carry. As others have said, our gun laws vary from state to state. They are a maze of b.s. and often make no sense (i.e. we, whom are responsible, follow them, while criminals of course do not).

I am a FL and NC attorney. NOTHING I say here is legal advice in any way, just examples. But for example, in NC, you cannot carry a gun in any way/shape/form on school property. Just like if you're walking into a court house, police station, etc.

If you want send me a PM with your email and I will ask my friend here in NC who wrote our book on NC Firearms laws to see if there is someone in your state who can be a resource on this.

Well I have been getting my gear to conceal carry full time, and the recent "Do you leave your gun in vehicle?" post, got me wondering how I can legally handle when I drop my son off at school in the morning on my way to work? He is a only in kindergarten and where his school is located on a main road with just barely enough breakdown lane I don't feel it is safe leaving him off at the side of the road--this option will get even worse when winter finally arrives and snowbanks pile up. His school is located 15 minutes from my house, and on the way to my work so going back to the house will add an additional half hour of driving time. The only option that I can see as viable would be to lock in the gun in a hard case in the vehicle when I leave the house in the morning, and take it out after leaving the school. But not sure if this goes against State Law of "No Guns on School Property."

 

[Lost Lake]

williamlayton,

That may be OK in Texas, but in Ohio if you

screw up concerning school property or events & firearms,

It's FELONY TIME.

All your Firearms are GONE for real, FOREVER.

And that's the way it is in Wisconsin.... Felony. And that's BAD.

 

[Imaposer]

Yeah, it is bad. But in the real world, do you really believe that you will ever be accosted and patted down while dropping off your kindergarder at school. We all know why these laws were instituted and yeah, the law is the law, and no, I don't feel that I am above the law, but still... Don't overthink it. Either leave it in the vehicle (if that makes you more comfortable) or just forget about it and carry on about your day.

I mean, how many of us have been patted down as we've went about our daily affairs while carrying? I know I haven't. With that said, I do make every reasonable attempt to obey all laws concerning my CCW rights.

 

[williamlayton]

Well, you fellers can miagrate to texas if you wish---we get a whole lot from the south---at least ya'll speak english.
I really don't know what language is spoken in Mass.---I don't understand it any better that those southern emigrants.

Blessings

 

[setxn]

Resident Texas CHL holders are legal on school premises which are all areas accept buildings unless a school sponsored function is being held or on school vehicles. Federal law addresses all other guns and school legalities.

 

[novalty]

Well I just ordered my custom holster last Friday from R. Grizzle Leather, so I have some time to figure things out ahead of time. Plus working with my son not to mention "daddy has a gun." I know a lot of people in the school, and only spend perhaps 3-5 minutes on the school grounds while dropping him off. I live in a fairly rural community and know that I have seen people dropping off kids during deer season with a hunting rifle in the back window of their pick-up--heck when I was in high-school not that long ago we had other kids that would have a rifle in their truck. But I know the State considered Concealed Carry a whole different ball game, and a lot of events have happened since I graduated that involved firearms at school.

 

[mr.jbk79]

Well I just ordered my custom holster last Friday from R. Grizzle Leather, so I have some time to figure things out ahead of time. Plus working with my son not to mention "daddy has a gun."

Just make sure your son knows he can't have you bring it in for "show and Tell" time.

 

[mc5aw]

Yeah, it is bad. But in the real world, do you really believe that you will ever be accosted and patted down while dropping off your kindergarder at school. We all know why these laws were instituted and yeah, the law is the law, and no, I don't feel that I am above the law, but still... Don't overthink it. Either leave it in the vehicle (if that makes you more comfortable) or just forget about it and carry on about your day.

I mean, how many of us have been patted down as we've went about our daily affairs while carrying? I know I haven't. With that said, I do make every reasonable attempt to obey all laws concerning my CCW rights.

The odds of winning the $550+ million Powerball were in the neighborhood of 1 in 175 million. Two people won despite the odds. I'd estimate that the odds of being "made" carrying on school grounds are significantly lower. Getting patted down is not even a consideration, compared to something simple like printing or inadvertently exposing the concealed firearm. Never think the odds are too high for it to happen.

 

[Spininprop]

Just opinion but no firearms of any kind on school property which I believe is one of many places federally banned from carry. And remember school property can go further. Any location an official school event is running or bus stop.

 

[CigarGuy]

I have to drop my wife off, in the dark, at 6:30AM at her school. She's in a portable, with a number of blind spots as the sidewalk weaves between portables. I, of course, wait until I see her into her room and then, she has to look in closets, etc.
I find the whole situation potentially dangerous and it's a shame I can't be properly armed.............

 

[MichiganScott]

In Michigan, I'm fine until I step out of the car.

I'd do the same thing that I do when going into a court house or post office. I empty the pistol, put a trigger lock on it, toss it in the glove box, and lock the car. I hate to do it, but I have no desire to become Bubba's girlfriend.