SCOTUS Pick Sotomayor and the 2nd Amendment
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mstuhr
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Hi Barb,
No one that gets nominated can disapoint me. I expect the worst.
If we happen to get anything better than the worst I will be pleased.
Thanks for the info.
Mike
No one that gets nominated can disapoint me. I expect the worst.
If we happen to get anything better than the worst I will be pleased.
Thanks for the info.
Mike
Spotteddog
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If he gets re-elected, you'll have a Hell of a lot more to worry about than his SCOTUS nominee's? Those future picks will be the least of gun owners worries!
luangtom
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wheelgun1958
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She's also made racial statements.
Who's next on her list of those she feels superior to? Jews? Gypsies?
Also a video has surfaced of Judge Sotomayor asserting in 2005 that a “court of appeals is where policy is made.” She then immediately adds: “And I know — I know this is on tape, and I should never say that because we don’t make law. I know. O.K. I know. I’m not promoting it. I’m not advocating it. I’m — you know.”
Judges make policy and decide who are the undesirables. Hmmmm. Familiar?
Who's next on her list of those she feels superior to? Jews? Gypsies?
Also a video has surfaced of Judge Sotomayor asserting in 2005 that a “court of appeals is where policy is made.” She then immediately adds: “And I know — I know this is on tape, and I should never say that because we don’t make law. I know. O.K. I know. I’m not promoting it. I’m not advocating it. I’m — you know.”
Judges make policy and decide who are the undesirables. Hmmmm. Familiar?
Spotteddog
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I'm sure it's all coincidence? You know, announcing the appointment 24 hours after Kim Jung Makesmeill lights off nuke #2? Watch BOTH hands!
(EDIT) But on the other hand there are 2 saving graces in this.
1. She's replacing an already left leaning justice.
And,
2. Mathematically she's impossible to prevent? So she'll be all theirs, just like the swindleus package was!
(EDIT) But on the other hand there are 2 saving graces in this.
1. She's replacing an already left leaning justice.
And,
2. Mathematically she's impossible to prevent? So she'll be all theirs, just like the swindleus package was!
R. Walter
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In picking Sotomayor Obama has almost certainly solidified his standing among Hispanics. If Republicans can't find a way to make Hispanics a swing group electorally -- as Bush did in 2004 when he won 44 percent of the Latino vote -- they may find themselves in a permanent minority status. Bridging that gap between the GOP and the Hispanic community just got a lot more difficult.
There is a direct link between Obama's election and his first SCOTUS pick, a series of firsts that reaffirm the idea that anyone born in this country can grow up to be anything they can achieve.
The Sotomayor selection is a sign that Obama knows he is riding high in terms of personal popularity and job approval and isn't afraid to pick someone that will enrage the conservative right. Obama knows his selection of Sotomayor will create a reaction on the right and possibly lead to a more contentious hearing in the Senate Judiciary Committee and vote on the floor of the Senate than some of the other names that have been bounced around.
The simple fact is this is a fight Obama welcomes because of the current political environment. Obama is not only popular but also trusted by the American people.
Republicans, on the other hand, have staggered around leaderless since the 2008 election. They seem to watch helplessly as the unpopular former VP Cheney has stepped into the void.
Republicans will, almost certainly, use the Sotomayor pick as a rallying cry for their party which is in shambles. But, in picking Sotomayor, Obama has expressed his absolute confidence that even a united GOP can't beat him.
There is a direct link between Obama's election and his first SCOTUS pick, a series of firsts that reaffirm the idea that anyone born in this country can grow up to be anything they can achieve.
The Sotomayor selection is a sign that Obama knows he is riding high in terms of personal popularity and job approval and isn't afraid to pick someone that will enrage the conservative right. Obama knows his selection of Sotomayor will create a reaction on the right and possibly lead to a more contentious hearing in the Senate Judiciary Committee and vote on the floor of the Senate than some of the other names that have been bounced around.
The simple fact is this is a fight Obama welcomes because of the current political environment. Obama is not only popular but also trusted by the American people.
Republicans, on the other hand, have staggered around leaderless since the 2008 election. They seem to watch helplessly as the unpopular former VP Cheney has stepped into the void.
Republicans will, almost certainly, use the Sotomayor pick as a rallying cry for their party which is in shambles. But, in picking Sotomayor, Obama has expressed his absolute confidence that even a united GOP can't beat him.
luangtom
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Yer probably correct about the solidifying of the Hispanic community on this appointment. Most, if any, never owned firearms in Puerto Rico or Mexico or wherever they are from. So, the 2A is not on their priority-list. I know in my contacts with members of my daughter-in-law's family the 2A is not a priority. The "programs" are. Guess what Obama has promised?.....More "programs".
ChadW
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After hearing about her race and gender driven rulings, as well as hearing some statements she has made, I decided to write to my PA senators. Both dems now that Specter switched.
The Senate has to confirm the nomination, so if you feel uneasy about this choice, I recommend contacting your senators.
Letter:
Dear Senator Specter,
The purpose of this email is to address nomination of Sonia Sotomayor for the Supreme Court. The fact that she would be "the first Hispanic and the third woman to serve on the high court" is, in my opinion, not a factor to consider when choosing a Supreme Court Justice.
Questions about her personal bias based on gender and ethnicity have already been raised. Ricci v. DeStefano is a prime example of questionable judgment. In the aforementioned case, Judge Sotomayor was part of a panel ruling against a group of white firefighters in New Haven, Connecticut. The firefighters objected after the city threw out the results of a promotion test because too many white firefighters, and not enough minority firefighters, scored high. To me, this is a troubling ruling that clearly favors race instead of ability as a deciding factor for promotion.
Statements made by the Judge in the past are also concerning. When speaking at Duke University, she once said "All of the legal defense funds out there, they're looking for people with court of appeals experience" because "the court of appeals is where policy is made." This comment greatly concerns me because the purpose of the judicial branch has never been to make policy, but to interpret the law.
I personally do not wish to see Judge Sotomayor appointed the Supreme Court, and I ask you to take a close look into her past during the confirmation before deciding how to vote.
Thank you for your time.
Respectfully,
Chad Willis
The Senate has to confirm the nomination, so if you feel uneasy about this choice, I recommend contacting your senators.
Letter:
Dear Senator Specter,
The purpose of this email is to address nomination of Sonia Sotomayor for the Supreme Court. The fact that she would be "the first Hispanic and the third woman to serve on the high court" is, in my opinion, not a factor to consider when choosing a Supreme Court Justice.
Questions about her personal bias based on gender and ethnicity have already been raised. Ricci v. DeStefano is a prime example of questionable judgment. In the aforementioned case, Judge Sotomayor was part of a panel ruling against a group of white firefighters in New Haven, Connecticut. The firefighters objected after the city threw out the results of a promotion test because too many white firefighters, and not enough minority firefighters, scored high. To me, this is a troubling ruling that clearly favors race instead of ability as a deciding factor for promotion.
Statements made by the Judge in the past are also concerning. When speaking at Duke University, she once said "All of the legal defense funds out there, they're looking for people with court of appeals experience" because "the court of appeals is where policy is made." This comment greatly concerns me because the purpose of the judicial branch has never been to make policy, but to interpret the law.
I personally do not wish to see Judge Sotomayor appointed the Supreme Court, and I ask you to take a close look into her past during the confirmation before deciding how to vote.
Thank you for your time.
Respectfully,
Chad Willis
uzisandfloozies
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if you substitute "1st amendment" anywhere a lunatic liberal says "2nd amendment", it gets interesting.
would this gas-bag say that 1st amendment rights are not protected at the state level? are the states free to prohibit free speech, free worship, etc?
how about civil rights? are the states free to violate federal civil rights statutes? sems to me that was the whole point of the civil rights movement - to make the states obey the constitutionally-protected rights of ALL citizens...
would this gas-bag say that 1st amendment rights are not protected at the state level? are the states free to prohibit free speech, free worship, etc?
how about civil rights? are the states free to violate federal civil rights statutes? sems to me that was the whole point of the civil rights movement - to make the states obey the constitutionally-protected rights of ALL citizens...
The Rabbi
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Can you post where she said such a thing. Of course she is a liberal. Did anyone expect something different? She will be replacing a liberal. No loss there.
I so far haven't seen anything in the record that makes me want to take to the streets.
luangtom
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It was read on the Newsmax web-site under Breaking News. I have e-mailed it to you via the address on your profile.
The Rabbi
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I didnt see any place where she says the Constitution is outdated.
Nor did I see any place where she said a Hispanic woman would decide cases better than a white man.
Nor did I see where she advocated making legislation from the bench. Actually the opposite of that.
I do see people struggling to take any comments she made out of context.
Nor did I see any place where she said a Hispanic woman would decide cases better than a white man.
Nor did I see where she advocated making legislation from the bench. Actually the opposite of that.
I do see people struggling to take any comments she made out of context.
USAF385
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You can check any news site and find the quote of her saying "I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."
YouTube has the video of her saying the court of is where policy is made... but she also immediately said something along the lines of.. I shouldn't have said that in front of the cameras, and we all know policy isn't made here... (something along those lines)
I've known about her for..... well since today so I really have no opinion. The firefighter thing really bugs me though. That I really don't like.
YouTube has the video of her saying the court of is where policy is made... but she also immediately said something along the lines of.. I shouldn't have said that in front of the cameras, and we all know policy isn't made here... (something along those lines)
I've known about her for..... well since today so I really have no opinion. The firefighter thing really bugs me though. That I really don't like.
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ChadW You think I should write to my Senators? Thses two #$%^& voted to close Gitmo and bring the scum there here. I'm going to talk to my dogs about it instead.
ChadW
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I understand your cynicism. Complainging to forum members and your dogs will not accomplish anything though. My two Senators are Arlen Specter and Robert Casey.... do you think I think I will change their minds? I just want them to know that there are people out there who are wary of Sotomayor... Especially Specter. He's on thin ice for his little switch to the Dems not too long ago and he should know there isn't total support for her.
badguybuster
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She is also the judge who threw out the case where the white firefighters were sueing over reverse discrimination. Her brief was one paragraph long! From what I gathered watching Lou Dobbs (only one on CNN I can stomach) the other Dem Judges aren't too fond of her either.
godlessgael
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I think Obama has the same vetting staff as McCain did when he picked Palin. How could he ever seriously consider this lady??? She is on record making very serious racist statements. This is before we even take into consideration that she believes the courts are for making policy.
The Rabbi
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Everyone keeps repeating the same sound bites heard on Rush Limbaugh. THey are out of context and do not support the conclusions drawn.
I'm certainly no fan of Obama but I haven't seen anything that suggests she is unqualified or even hostile to our point of view.
I would strongly suggest going and reading the entirety of the lecture that has been cited. Keep in mind the context of it. I think it is very good. I don't agree with her conclusions but it is fair, balanced and she comes across as very bright. And I don't find the quotation that has been attributed to her here.
Lecture found here
I'm certainly no fan of Obama but I haven't seen anything that suggests she is unqualified or even hostile to our point of view.
I would strongly suggest going and reading the entirety of the lecture that has been cited. Keep in mind the context of it. I think it is very good. I don't agree with her conclusions but it is fair, balanced and she comes across as very bright. And I don't find the quotation that has been attributed to her here.
Lecture found here
ChadW
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First of all, I don't EVER listen to Rush. Guess where my news came from? FOX, CNN, ABC, CBS, and NBC.
Second, the firefighter issue isn't a "soundbite", it's a fact. One of the firefighters was interviewed and said he didn't get his promotion because he was white. He had tested better than some minorities, but since they decided to throw out the test results, they promoted LESS QUALIFIED people over him. Now that makes sense.
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