SD9 VE issues

[Pinger5.56]

Hello I just shot my SD 9 VE today for the first time, I am not happy with the results. All the videos and reviews I read the gun works flawlessly, mine on the other hand had lots of issues. Here is a summary of the issues I had and the ammo I used.

If anyone else has had these problems what was the cause. How did Smith&Wesson Handle the issue.

Thanks to all replies

 

[Pinger5.56]

Issues

Well I guess I might be the first one to have issues with this gun. I have like 20 views but not even I reply yet. WOW, I really enjoy my luck sometimes. Thanks to all that do reply, I would still like to here from anyone out there that owns a SD9 VE. I want to hear about shooting, ammo used ect..
Thank you all.

 

[2hawk]

Pinger, sorry to hear of your trouble. I'd suggest just putting the text of your document into your post. People get nervous when things start downloading into their files, and it's not like there's so much info there you can't just cut and paste.

Onto the gun/ammo- is it brand new, or used? Is it covered under warranty? Are you able to clearly describe the problem better that FTF? In other words, more info.

The ammo you are using is not known for any particular reliability. That could be the problem. Given that you seem to be saying you are having the same problem with different ammo, then you may have a feeding problem. Springs, extractor tension, feedway or breechface roughness could all be causes.

Does it do it with all mags, or only some, or only one? Do you have access to more mags (shooting buddies, club, etc.)?

I don't think anyone is intentionally ignoring you, but your presentation of the issues is not enough to really get anyone started in a meaningful way. imho, anyway.

 

[nocents]

what 2 hawk said in a really nice way may not resonate with you.......so......let me help....document your problems in the post so experts here can help you with out opening a jack wad file

 

[KOLPIN]

Pinger5.56, did you see the "SD & Sigma" forum here on the website? Check it out and ask some Q?'s there. I think you might like it there.

 

[Pinger5.56]

MAgtech
115gr FMJ
Shot 100 rds
3-failure to feed
2-out of battery
2-failures to extract

Winchester Whitebox
115gr FMJ
Shot 50rds
2-failures to feed
2-failures to lockback after last casing ejected

Fiocchi
115gr FMJ
shot 100
1-out of battery after the 2nd round
4-failures to feed
4-failures to eject
2-failures to lockback

DRT(Dynamic Research Technologies
85gr
shot 15
1-failures to lockback
2-failures to feed
1-out of battery 3-4th round.

shot a total of 265 rounds thru it. I also was shooting my Star BM, had the same ammo for both and the same amount, except the DRT rounds I only shot the remaining 5 in the BM. I always write down every issue with my firearms at the range. I also always keep track of the ammo used in my firearms.
This is the ammo I shot thru it that day, I did not realize that it was in a jack wad file, just thought it attached it like in every other forum I go to, guess not this one. I also had a complete stranger that day shoot it too and he could not even get a full mag through it. Thank you all that reply

 

[Pinger5.56]

SD9 VE failures

I shot this through my SD9 VE and this is what happened the first day. Even had a complete stranger shoot it with the Winchester white box and he did not even get a whole mag through it without several out of battery ejection and feed problems. It also did not lock back after the last round either on him. This is my shooting notes from that day on the range and the ammo I used. Has anyone else had any issues with the SD9 VE or did I just by chance get a lemon. The reviews online on this firearm are outstanding, but my handgun is far from that. Have contacted Smith&Wesson, was told to return it. Not sure when that will be has been over a week and still no reply back on what to do with the firearm.

MAgtech
115gr FMJ
Shot 100 rds
3-failure to feed
2-out of battery
2-failures to extract

Winchester Whitebox
115gr FMJ
Shot 50rds
2-failures to feed
2-failures to lockback after last casing ejected

Fiocchi
115gr FMJ
shot 100
1-out of battery after the 2nd round
4-failures to feed
4-failures to eject
2-failures to lockback

DRT(Dynamic Research Technologies
85gr
shot 15
1-failures to lockback
2-failures to feed
1-out of battery 3-4th round.

shot a total of 265 rounds thru it. I also was shooting my Star BM, had the same ammo for both and the same amount, except the DRT rounds I only shot the remaining 5 in the BM. I always write down every issue with my firearms at the range. I also always keep track of the ammo used in my firearms.

 

[hmbiohazard]

A. brand new gun? if yes did you clean and lube before shooting as it is always recommended

B. if new the feeding ramp and internals could probably use some polishing. check out youtube vids for that

C. limp wrist. i will say 9 out of 10 malfunctions are attributed to this. improper hold, finger placement, or limp wristing is main cause for issues when feeding/ejecting

after replies to these we can troubleshoot further

good news. if you feel there is an issue smith has lifetime warranty

 

[5aprilc]

+1 on limp wrist being the issue.

 

[micocyco]

If the pistol is new & you have checked & rechecked all things said here & still have the same problems I would not waste anytime sending back to S&W. They should give you pre-paid shipping.

 

[11e40]

I have & still own several sigmas. never any problems. make sure to clean & lube before using & ck to see that your not limpwristing. usually that & bad mags. are the first things to cause problems in bottom feeders hth.

 

[hmbiohazard]

I have & still own several sigmas. never any problems. make sure to clean & lube before using & ck to see that your not limpwristing. usually that & bad mags. are the first things to cause problems in bottom feeders hth.

thats what i was getting at. mags were next on list

 

[Pinger5.56]

I have 3 mags for it all Smith&Wesson and mags they all did it, all 3 gave me failure to lock back on last round ejection. Also the firearm is brand New, Yes I did clean it before taking it to the range, I even cleaned it that day at the Range before shooting it again, it would still mess up, I have heard of limp wristing and I have a two handed firm grip on my firearm. I also Shot my Star BM 9mm That same day and it fired the same rounds and had no issues with it. I also just purchased a Bersa Thunder pro 9mm and shot 50 rounds through it the day I got it and also had no issues with limp wristing or anything with that handgun either. I am not new at shooting handguns. I have shot and owned firearms for well over 20+ years. So I am not sure, should I try to run some more rounds through it to see if it will still mess up or just send it back to Smith&Wesson which for some reason is taking forever, they received my email and now I have to wait another 5-7 days for the packing instructions and shipping label. It has already been over a week since I shot it and called them about this issue. So just to ship it back I am looking at over 2 weeks to a month before I can even ship it. WoW was expecting more for one of the oldest gun Companies. Also if they are that busy with customer returns that scares me what other smith&wesson firearms I own are going to start giving me issues. Just a bit Upset that is all, I like the gun but not sure what to do, run more rounds through it first if still messes up send it back or just wait and send it back.
Thank you for all the replies

 

[hmbiohazard]

i would look into polishing the feed ramp and internals. there are many videos out on the web on how to do this. i had issues with my SD40 within the first 500 rounds. i polished my ramp and lubed my barell and have had no issues since. i have 8000+ now

 

[Pinger5.56]

i would look into polishing the feed ramp and internals. there are many videos out on the web on how to do this. i had issues with my SD40 within the first 500 rounds. i polished my ramp and lubed my barell and have had no issues since. i have 8000+ now

So just forgo sending it back to Smith&Wesson and polish the feed ramp and internals myself and then try it, I was thinking that because my Star Bm had the same kind of issues and my father polished the feed ramp and some of the other internals on it and now it runs great. But won't this void out the warranty on the gun.

 

[hmbiohazard]

I used a dremel and the white cloth polishing cone. I dont think polishing voids a warranty. Correct me if i am wrong anybody


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[Tmarcus808]

I agree with limp wrist. I'v fired 200 rounds of mixed rounds (all being 115 grain though) and about 100 reloads and have NOT come across one jam, misfire, ejecting problem or anything. I did though polish the feed ramp and trigger and some other internals as soon as I bought the gun. Alot of problems I have seen out at the range with people and jams is almost always 100% user error (IE holding the gun wrong, loading with mixed casings). Start off small with a half loaded mag (after cleaning, oiling, and polishing your gun) and keep changing how you hold the gun until its comfortable and you no longer have issues. If need be alot of ranges teach classes on proper gun handling, regardless of experience it's always a good idea just to maybe get a refresher. JMO

 

[2hawk]

I used a dremel and the white cloth polishing cone. I dont think polishing voids a warranty. Correct me if i am wrong anybody


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Of course it will. Any "unauthorized" work on your gun is a warranty violation. Will it matter, is the question.

If I was in the OP's shoes I would be doing the standard semi-auto fluff and buff. Where it get's tricky giving advice on the internet is when you're trying to gauge the understanding that a person asking for advice really has. So, bear with us, pinger- we don't know if your the next John Browning, or a delta-ranger-tierone-HSLD-operator posting from your Mom's basement.

Through personal experience I can unequivocally say that over doing a ramp job can lead to an unsafe condition, and the same goes for most any work involving polishing or fitting on a firearm- too much and you wreck parts, and they may be BODY parts.

So, while I think the advice to clean up the feedway is good, it needs the caveat that the work is done by someone who knows what they are doing. If you don't, then S&W does, and can take care of you. But, it may take them awhile, and since they are run by bean-counters, (like almost all large publicly traded businesses), it might take them more than one try. At least that seems to be the trend if you read these boards.

 

[Pinger5.56]

I am not limp wristing my gun, I also own a Bersa Thunder9pro 9mm, Star BM 9mm, and when I shoot them I have no issues. I have taken classes growing up as a son to a Police officer and ex-military serving 3 tours in Nam in the Navy, growing up in the country with no one living around you but hills and trees, there where many days of shooting. Hunting, trapping, farming where also daily life style. So In close shooting a handgun is not a problem here, thank you. Basic cleaning and upkeep I know but when it comes to gunsmith issues on a firearm I am not a pro, just trained at standard self defense and upkeep on firearms. Thank you I hope that this give you all a better insight on who you are chatting with.

 

[2hawk]

This should provide some information:

https://www.google.com/search?q=sem...57.9048j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

No warranty expressed or implied