Sig P238 or Colt Mustang?

[Grayfox]

I own one of the older Mustangs and have fired the Sig. Both are great guns, but I like the Colt more. The Sig is a little on the blocky side to me.
I haven't even seen one of the new Mustangs, so I can't comment on them.
All I can say is look at both and see which one you like.

 

[Kanewpadle]

Not to derail things but why settle for a 380 when you can have a Kahr PM9 or CM9?

 

[Herknav]

Dave, you have great taste in guns & grips


Art

Dave, do you have an ambi safety, or how do you work the safety with the pistol in your wrong hand?

That's a really nice-looking Mustang, btw.

Thanks,
Herk

 

[LedFowl]

Neither is blowback, is that right?

 

[Rule3]

Neither is blowback, is that right?

Which ones??

 

[jaykellogg]

I wouldn't carry "condition 1" in my pocket. I have two pocket guns, a Diamondback DB380 and a Kel Tec PF-9.

Of the two you mentioned, I guess I would go with the Sig.

 

[Moonman]

Condition 1 in a GOOD POCKET HOLSTER.

The Sig Safety has to be removed with intentional authority, you're not just going to bump it off.

Then the trigger still has to PULLED.

Some folks are just mentally conditioned to a revolvers inherit safety, so that is what they should carry.

 

[627 city hunter]

As usual Kanewpadle takes the words off my keyboard.

9mm offerings for pocket carry are the logical jump from the .380 which is even a more expensive round though it is generally under powered.

PF9
Nano
LC9
Shield
PPS
Kimber Solo
P290

Then I came across this:

You really don’t need a pocket 9mm | Gun Nuts Media

9mm +P is a serious load in any case.

Keep in mind I don't like pocket carry pistols because they don't feel right in my hands.

The P290 with extension being the exception.

 

[chief38]

I am not a big .380 fan because of the stopping power issue; inadequate to say the least, IMHO. That said, IF I WERE TO carry a .380 acp it would be the NEW Colt Mustang because I've fired two of them in the last few months and they have been 100% reliable, very accurate, can safely be carried with the hammer down over a round in the chambers, fit the hand very well, and are the best of the pocket pistols IMHO.

After experiencing a LOT of failures of the other brands like Kahr, Ruger, Seecamp, Kel Tec, etc. I have no faith in them personally as far as reliability is concerned.

I'll stick with my M60-7 but again the New Colt is REALLY a quality made gun if you like the .380.

 

[LedFowl]

Which ones??

Sorry, it was early. Neither the Mustang nor the Sig P238 is blowback, is that right?

 

[keith44spl]

Dave, do you have an ambi safety, or how do you work the safety with the pistol in your wrong hand?

That's a really nice-looking Mustang, btw.

Thanks,
Herk

I jest carry it hammer down.......



Su Amigo,
Dave

 

[Cyrano]

Sorry, it was early. Neither the Mustang nor the Sig P238 is blowback, is that right?

Right. Both are locked breech, on the Browning system: locking lugs on the top of the barrel engage grooves in the slide. The breech of the barrel is cammed down to unlock.

 

[steamloco76]

I have a SIG P238 with the night sight option. It is an utterly reliable, accurate pistol. In my reliability/torture test range sessions, the P238 has made it past 200 rounds of mixed ammo before fouling finally caused a stovepipe jam. Darned good for a tiny pocket pistol that you certainly aren't going to use in an extended firefight. The gun favors Speer Gold Dot and Federal Hydra-Shock JHP's with Hornady Critical Defense working well too.

My only slight issue with this particular P238 is a case of first shot low syndrome. It always and I mean always prints the round manually racked into the chamber 5-6 inches low and 2-3 inches left of aim. The next six rounds will shred the aim point. It does not matter which method is used to chamber the first round, sling shotting the slide or using the slide release. Practicing, I just aim high chest for two- three fast shots then a double on the head. It pays to know your carry pieced very well.

 

[Mercury]

IIRC, the Mustang has a FP safety that's connected to the trigger. It cannot fire unless the trigger is held rearward. Because of this, I feel much better about carrying it in a pocket holster, cocked and locked.

As far as I'm aware, the Sig doesn't have this feature and therefore is not a candidate for pocket carry for me.

Both are reliable and accurate. The Sig has better sights but Novaks makes them for the Mustang.

 

[blujax01]

Has the alloy frame been an issue for anyone? The current Colt Mustang is an alloy whereas Sig offers alloy versions and a P238HD in stainless. It is 5 oz heavier though.

I do appreciate you folks having this discussion. You all are great!

 

[steamloco76]

Has the alloy frame been an issue for anyone? The current Colt Mustang is an alloy whereas Sig offers alloy versions and a P238HD in stainless. It is 5 oz heavier though.

I do appreciate you folks having this discussion. You all are great!

I have about 1,000 rounds through my P238 and the frame is showing almost no wear. Lube mine with Weapons Shield grease, which works very nicely on steel on aluminum surfaces.

 

[Cyrano]

Has the alloy frame been an issue for anyone? .

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I had a stainless pocketlite. After about 1500 rounds of fairly mild cast bullet handloads, the frame began to peen where the breech of the barrel slammed down on it during the firing cycle. I got an all steel one after that.

 

[ace22]

i didn't read through this thread so my answer might be a repeat but i say go with the colt, either the new model or an older model.
i own several of the colt 380s and did own a sig 238 and have handled several others. the colt just seems smoother in fit, and feels better in my hand. another plus is the colt is a better investment.

 

[Mphstiger1981]

I got the Sig P238 and greatly enjoy it. It is a little heavier in the pocket than the Kel-Tecs and the LCPs of the world, but I personally find it easier to shoot than the others and I've owned several of each flavor over the years. Mine has been very reliable and resides in my strong side pants pocket almost every day, backed up by the S&W 642 on the ankle.

 

[dyner]

My wife bought a new p238 sig Saturday. We both agree to chambering and leaving the hammer down for CC SD. Target shooting is a different story. WOW.... the SA trigger pull at 4+ lbs is incredibly smooth.