Smith and Wesson 16-4

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Hello everyone!

With my birthday coming up Ive decided to add another revolver to my collection. I’m interested in this Model 16-4 but I’m not too familiar with the caliber.

This shoots 3 cartridges. I was wondering any owners of the 16-4 how do you like the round/platform? Is ammo readily available? Is this revolver a good find..


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Hello everyone!

With my birthday coming up Ive decided to add another revolver to my collection. I’m interested in this Model 16-4 but I’m not too familiar with the caliber.

This shoots 3 cartridges. I was wondering any owners of the 16-4 how do you like the round/platform? Is ammo readily available? Is this revolver a good find..


Here are some pictures

I’m not an owner, although I do have a 432-UC also in .32 H&R…shoots .32 Long, .32 ACP and .32 H&R Magnum. There has been a big recent resurgence in .32 revolvers and ammo is getting easier to find.
Now, Happy Birthday and stop the celebration and get that gun!
 
The 16-4s are great guns, I have a 4 and a 6 inch and wouldn't mind adding an 8 3/8 if one is found at a reasonable price. I shoot mostly 32 H&R mag cases loaded with 100 grain lead semi-wadcutter bullets and 3 grains or so of Tightgroup. Not much more expensive than shooting 22LR and more fun. Had the 6 inch out to the range yesterday shooting some JHPs at a little higher velocity but only because I grabbed the wrong box of ammo. You won't be sorry if you get one, other than they're a little expensive these days. Nobody much wanted them when S&W produced them but that's changed. Good luck.

As pictures are obligatory here's one of the 4 inch.

Jeff
SWCA #1457

https://flic.kr/p/2nxy1Ec https://www.flickr.com/photos/194934231@N03/
 
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Stunning pieces gentleman! I am strongly considering this 16-4. The gentleman is asking $1500 with no box or paperwork. The revolver is clean. I dont know how I feel about adding another caliber. I’m sure your Model 16-4 are a joy to shoot!
 
Stunning pieces gentleman! I am strongly considering this 16-4. The gentleman is asking $1500 with no box or paperwork. The revolver is clean. I dont know how I feel about adding another caliber. I’m sure your Model 16-4 are a joy to shoot!

You might find one for less but I would be surprised to do so where I shop. I passed on an 8 3/8 a couple years ago at $1500 as "too expensive" and haven't seen one offered for that since. Good luck.

Jeff
SWCA #1457
 
Most of the 16-4s sold on GB recently have sold from $1400 - $1700. One sold for $2895, complete with box, papers and tools. It was mint.

Here's mine. Only have the gun.

To the OP, anything in .32 caliber is a pure pleasure to shoot.
 

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My favorite caliber are the various 32’s. I can say that because I have more 32’s than any other caliber so I’m a bit prejudiced. With that said, my 16-4 is the best of the lot. It’s not the best for concealed carry but is the most fun to shoot of the whole bunch. Even with hot loads, the weight and combat grips makes for an enjoyable experience at the range. Or if you rather, pop off some 32 Long wadcutters with virtually no recoil.

Ammunition is available on line but I think the 32 H&R is a reloaders dream. The versatility o the cartridge including the 32 Long is amazing.The price you quoted is is very good. If I didn’t already have one, I’d be happy to pay that for a 16-4. Go close the deal before someone else beats you to it.

Oh! happy birthday
 
I’m a loud proponent for the various 32 revolvers for s many years. Unfortunately, I sold my first 16-4 about 16-4 foolishly thinking I could pick up another one just any time. This was about 1993, and since I discovered my error, they have stayed just ahead of my reach.
Untill and unless there is a suitable 16-5 (don’t hold your breath) that is the finest 32 from S&W, and unfortunately $1500 seems to be in the going price range.
If you’re in doubt about this gun, you can do a quick search in some of the many, many discussions of K32s on this forum. But don’t wait too long, it will disappear to another buyer. Good luck!
Froggie
 
I believe that the 6" 16-4 is the most commonly seen, the 8 3/8 may be the most rare but 4" ones are not often seen either. I would be all over that.
I think it is a reloaders dream, though factory ammo is usually available. 32 Long is a wonderful cartridge to shoot, I have never shot 32 acp in any of my 32's though I understand its perfectly fine to do so.

I have 3 32 H&R's and a 32 long. I bought my 16-4 6" about 2 1/2 years ago for just under $2000 with box, tools, papers and no turn line. It was reportedly unfired when I got it but it didn't stay that way. I would be shaking up finances to get cash if I had an opportunity to buy the gun shown in post 1.
 
Actually the 16-4 will handle .32 H&R Mag, 32 Long, 32 S&W, and (in a pinch) 32 auto. With a simple ream to accept the 327 Federal that makes it 5 rounds it will handle.


Since I'm getting old, I have been selling all my guns off a little at a time, and my 6" 16-4 went away about a year ago for $1400 if I recall correctly. It was a tack driver, see picture. Since I like the round I still have a 432PD for occasional carry use.


 
My 16-4 Trifecta...

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While I think the S&W Combat stocks are nice, I think these are nicer. LOL

4" - John Hurst
6" - Keith Brown
8 3/8" - Fuzzy Farrant

Adios,

Pizza Bob
 
Im very interested in this revolver....but a 629-3 Classic Hunter has come across my radar! It has the Endurance Package
 
Just one old man’s opinion, but having one reamed for the 327 Federal Magnum is the way to go. I own a couple of cheaper 327’s and have been very impressed with that cartridge for a long time. Roughly half the recoil and only slightly less terminal performance than the 357, what’s not to like? Plus, in most revolvers you get 6 instead of 5 rounds due to the narrower case of the 327 (8 in some of the Rugers).
A fine cartridge that just never caught on, and as a result of course also resulted in higher prices. The 16 is the perfect companion for the Little Magnum that Will!
 
Just one old man’s opinion, but having one reamed for the 327 Federal Magnum is the way to go. I own a couple of cheaper 327’s and have been very impressed with that cartridge for a long time. Roughly half the recoil and only slightly less terminal performance than the 357, what’s not to like? Plus, in most revolvers you get 6 instead of 5 rounds due to the narrower case of the 327 (8 in some of the Rugers).
A fine cartridge that just never caught on, and as a result of course also resulted in higher prices. The 16 is the perfect companion for the Little Magnum that Will!

Navy SCPO, it was all in the timing! When the 32 H&R cartridge was introduced back in the 1980s, there was still a good market for revolvers in the U.S., but the H&R round from the factory was pretty anemic in deference to the H&R guns from which it gets its name. In addition, the manufacturers really didn’t push them as their “next big thing”.

Some gun writers of the day did some experimental loading for the round and got some gratifying results, but brass never got all that common (nor did factory ammo actually) and the 32 H&R sort of “died a-borning”

By the time the real magnum, the 327 Fed Mag came to the market, the bulk of the market had moved to semi-autos (even those made of [UGH] plastic!). A few revolver enthusiasts grabbed up or even built or modified whatever revolvers could shoot this new, “wonder round”. I myself bought the eight shot Ruger Blackhawk in 327 and had a custom stainless S&W K-frame built on a Model 66 donor.

Alas, I was just one of a few “voices crying in the wilderness” and our minuscule number has had very little effect on the major manufacturers. Smith has made a few (inappropriate IMHO) models in the caliber, Ruger a few more, and only minor players like Taurus and Charter Arms seem to have actually embraced the concept.

Proof that there is a small but somewhat significant interest in this caliber is the rapid rise in the market price of the small number of Model 16-4 revolvers, many of which are having their “value reduced” by being modified by reaming to 327 FM. If the clamor becomes loud enough, perhaps S&W folks will recognize this significant niche market and produce a Model 16-5 in the current run of no IL revolvers to satisfy the demand. One can only hope!

Green Frog
(See also: Project 616)
 
I'm not an expert and wasn't really a 32 fan until I got a 16-4. And even more so after reaming to Fed mag.
IIRC, about 8800 total -4's were made in the 3 barrel lengths. Not sure the breakdown of each length but again, IIRC, 6" were produced for slightly longer???
From a collector view, you may not want to mod to the 327, but IMO, it's where the fun begins and probably the longer barrel, the better. I have the 2 in 4" and know of an 8" coming for sale, but I think the 6" is best all-around, especially when converting.
 
this guy is asking alot of coin....$1750 with box and papers not matching to the revolver. I offered $1550 and he said the lowest he would take would be $1700...... he originally had the revolver marked $1500 obo and then someone told him they were selling in the $2000 range so he upped his price
 
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