Smith & Wesson to Pursue U.S. Army Modular Handgun System Contract

[roundgunner]

I'm glad to see S&W is going to give it a hard push.

http://www.gunsandammo.com/military...sue-u-s-army-modular-handgun-system/undefined

I have seen so many problems with the Beretta's on the line it is sickening.

 

[Donn]

Much as I'd like to see the Army adopt this version of the M&P, I doubt the U.S. military will ever go for a handgun that's not all steel. MHO, you understand.

 

[R. G. Amos]

They will probably choose an FN copy of some US designed gun.

 

[R1V3R5]

Much as I'd like to see the Army adopt this version of the M&P, I doubt the U.S. military will ever go for a handgun that's not all steel. MHO, you understand.

Yep, agree. Although it would be nice to put the M back in M&P.

 

[johnnymg]

The Fooldotcom knuckleheads imply that Smith&Wesson is a front runner in this article.

Did the Beretta M9 Just Lose Its Favorite Customer? (GD, RGR, SWHC)

Note: I always take the **** put out by the Fools as just that!

cheers
JohnG

 

[brucev]

Understand that occasionally a pistol is needed. But there is no need at all for some kind of a superweapon. If the DOD wants to buy a new pistol, fine. Never was impressed with the Beretta. It was and is O.K. But that's about all. It was like a lot of the 9mm pistols of that era, O.K., but nothing special.

If the DOD wants a new pistol, then they need to quit fooling around with a bunch of silliness and buy a pistol. The Glock 17 would be excellent. If they just couldn't deal with the Glock, they could buy the S&W M&P. That'd be a good choice. It'd work for normal soldiers. And it'd be useable by the distaff side. But the idea that some sort of a super weapon needs to be developed is ludicrous. It is nothing but a boondoggle to benefit general dynamics at the expense of the U.S. taxpayer plain and simple. So, give the DOD a Glock 17 or a S&W M&P. As to ammunition... that can be supplied by any of a number of domestic producers. Or... the DOD could just simply produce it's own ammo. Lake City, etc., all produced excellent ammo for years and years. No reason to try to reinvent the wheel. JMHO. Sincerely. brucev.

 

[BLACKHAWKNJ]

Doesn't matter what they adopt if the troops receive no training on it.

 

[venomballistics]

I take it that this one is gaining more momentum than prior attempts to oust the M9
good, and I hope they get it together and buy American this time.
Your standard issue weapons should always be native to avoid embargo issues in an unpopular, and protracted conflict.
As for belief that the DOD will refuse a plastic sidearm ... what's the stock of the M16 M4 been since Nam?

 

[Kaedan]

I'm one of those few knuckle-draggers who liked the M9. Enough so that I bought 1 or 2 variations when I left the ARMY. I don't remember a lot of complaints from others when I was in, or many failures, but boy after getting out, the stories came up....and they seem to grow as time goes on.

 

[glenncal1]

It will depend on which arms company makes the most political donations and promises the most high paying jobs to the procurement staff after they retire. See the air force's purchase of training aircraft for the academy....

 

[JohnSW]

I doubt the U.S. military will ever go for a handgun that's not all steel.

SIG's submission is polymer too, so gun manufacturers must think otherwise.

http://www.guns.com/2014/10/14/the-sig-p320-army-modular-handgun-system-edition-3-photos/

 

[Dennis The B]

I take it that this one is gaining more momentum than prior attempts to oust the M9
good, and I hope they get it together and buy American this time.
Your standard issue weapons should always be native to avoid embargo issues in an unpopular, and protracted conflict.
As for belief that the DOD will refuse a plastic sidearm ... what's the stock of the M16 M4 been since Nam?

While the last dime of profit does go the Beretta, Italy, the M9 is produced entirely in the U.S., right now in Maryland, and soon to be in Tennessee. The original contract called for U.S. manufacture.

 

[Philadelphia Patriot]

It will depend on which arms company makes the most political donations and promises the most high paying jobs to the procurement staff after they retire.....

^ that. Keep in mind the US Army bought and issues the ACU

 

[ChuckS1]

As to ammunition... that can be supplied by any of a number of domestic producers. Or... the DOD could just simply produce it's own ammo. Lake City, etc., all produced excellent ammo for years and years. No reason to try to reinvent the wheel. JMHO. Sincerely. brucev.

Back when I was an Ordnance officer, the Army was the Single Item Manager for small arms ammunition for all of DoD and, other than specialty ammo, had all it's small arms ammo made in its Govenment-Owned Contractor-Operated (GOCO) ammunition plants, like Lake City and others. For a time these were operated by was Olin and now, I believe, it's ATK. The names should sound familiar to all of you who buy store-bought ammunition and reloading components.

I retired a few years after DESERT STORM, but during the time I was in Saudi and my short visit to Iraq, I carried a M1911A1 as my issued sidearm, but took a rifle with me when it was time to go into Iraq.

 

[TTSH]

The Fooldotcom knuckleheads imply that Smith&Wesson is a front runner in this article.

Did the Beretta M9 Just Lose Its Favorite Customer? (GD, RGR, SWHC)

Note: I always take the **** put out by the Fools as just that!

Smart move! They have been nothing but notoriously inaccurate and usually dead wrong in every single article they have ever put forth on the firearms industry.

 

[vonn]

Since it is taxpayer dollars I think anything the military buys should be made here and from an American tax paying company. Having said that there are any number of good handguns that would fill the bill for general military use,1911's are still reasonable after 100 years so I am sure the military can find one without a big waste of time or taxpayer dollars.

 

[TTSH]

Understand that occasionally a pistol is needed. But there is no need at all for some kind of a superweapon. If the DOD wants to buy a new pistol, fine. Never was impressed with the Beretta. It was and is O.K. But that's about all. It was like a lot of the 9mm pistols of that era, O.K., but nothing special.

If the DOD wants a new pistol, then they need to quit fooling around with a bunch of silliness and buy a pistol. The Glock 17 would be excellent. If they just couldn't deal with the Glock, they could buy the S&W M&P. That'd be a good choice. It'd work for normal soldiers. And it'd be useable by the distaff side. But the idea that some sort of a super weapon needs to be developed is ludicrous.

Interesting points. In the age of drones, precision bombs, super-duper machine guns and other high-tech warfare stuff, is an all-new innovative pistol design really needed? Or is something off the shelf going to suit our troops just fine? Especially if all the stuff on the shelf these days is made of plastic?

Guess I'd want to know what the troops themselves really think about that. It's their lives on the line after all.

 

[islamoradamark]

just give them a glock 17 .Is it cause there cheap that pistol has been around since 1982 . I would like to see an upgrade our soldiers need the best JMHO

 

[da gimp]

^ that. Keep in mind the US Army bought and issues the ACU

Question, what is the ACU? I can't come up with this one.

 

[Philadelphia Patriot]

Question, what is the ACU? I can't come up with this one.

Army Combat Uniform. ...specifically, I'm referring to the pattern they chose.