Smith & Wesson to Pursue U.S. Army Modular Handgun System Contract
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Mickey D
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I hope S&W gets the nod. My SWHC stock will continue to improve.
JJEH
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As much as I want S&W to get the contract, there are just too many cooks stirring the pot. Plus, nobody really knows what big Army is looking for so I think it's a pretty open competition and everyone has a shot to some extend.
MOONDAWG
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I believe in the kiss principle; KISS = Keep It Simple Stupid
"Ceracoat" the S&W SD9VE desert tan, add a frame mounted thumb safety then let em shoot the hell out of it.
They're simple, cheap, and are 100% reliable.
"Ceracoat" the S&W SD9VE desert tan, add a frame mounted thumb safety then let em shoot the hell out of it.
They're simple, cheap, and are 100% reliable.
Whatever they buy - if anything at all - I would bet a small sum that various ignoramus politicians, not knowledgeable pistol shooters, will have the last word. 
I am not a real fan of the Beretta, mainly due to the large size for a 9mm. But, they seem to work well, the military has stocks of magazines, parts, holsters, and guns, plus training and repair facilities. Staying with the 9mm and changing guns would seem like a huge waste of money. If their experience suggests a change of caliber, then a new firearm with modern design and manufacturing materials would seem warranted. However, there seems to be a NATO agreement on the 9mm, so that may a large factor in the final decision.
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Beretta Not bad, but we need a change
I have read and heard quite a bit of talk lately about the next generation US Army side-arm. While I agree the Beretta has run its course I have to disagree with all the M9 bashing going on. It was a solid weapon; durable, easy to break down and clean, a solid shooter, easy safety...it was a perfect mass produced weapon for those who would probably never use it in a combat situation unless things got really bad. It's the round which is the issue, the 9mm has no place in a combat environment in the 21st century, particularly due to the proliferation of armor and other safeguards, even to local Afghans. I love S&W...I own a M&P .45 cap full size. I even own stock in the company. The army should at minimum be looking at this weapon which is just as durable, easy to clean/break down in the field, and is a very accurate shooter. While I don't necessarily agree that the .45 round is impractical in the field, I know that weight is always an issue. However, the army should dumpy the 9mm and look at the .40 or even the .357Sig. Any thoughts?
I have read and heard quite a bit of talk lately about the next generation US Army side-arm. While I agree the Beretta has run its course I have to disagree with all the M9 bashing going on. It was a solid weapon; durable, easy to break down and clean, a solid shooter, easy safety...it was a perfect mass produced weapon for those who would probably never use it in a combat situation unless things got really bad. It's the round which is the issue, the 9mm has no place in a combat environment in the 21st century, particularly due to the proliferation of armor and other safeguards, even to local Afghans. I love S&W...I own a M&P .45 cap full size. I even own stock in the company. The army should at minimum be looking at this weapon which is just as durable, easy to clean/break down in the field, and is a very accurate shooter. While I don't necessarily agree that the .45 round is impractical in the field, I know that weight is always an issue. However, the army should dumpy the 9mm and look at the .40 or even the .357Sig. Any thoughts?
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