So You Don't Believe It Happens Here !!!

[Ozark Marine]

And a FOID card. That's a " Firearms Owner Identification card" to all of you who live in Free States.
I keep my old one to remind me of why I left Illinois.

 

[Jack Flash]

Just the oven burners .. that was the very strange thing they did .. Don't think it would be the first thing that would come to mind when wanting to arm ones self ..

Yeah, wouldn't you think "kitchen knife" when in the kitchen? Maybe look for a meat cleaver? Even a frying pan would make more sense ...

There isn't much sense at all in the actions of tweekers. Spend too much time on trying to will just make ya crazy.

Maybe his wife, having watched too many old gangster movies, yelled to him "Grab a heater!" and that's what the moron came up with.

 

[vytoland]

From the news tonight it appears the BG will survive .. He will spend a few more years of his life behind bars after going through the court system ..

forget the bars and the court systems....put these folks on the hard road and let them do some serious time.....

 

[Whitwabit]

"Even if they were drunk/drugged up and mistaken, but I don't think that they were there for any good purpose."

This.

And the fact that the female intruders calls the homeowner a "psychotic *******" would seem to indicate that the BG's relative is lucky they picked the wrong house.

I'm guessing that young Casey spends no more than 3 years as a guest of the State as a result.

I'm glad the homeowner and his lady friend were not injured. I hope he has good insurance.

In Illinois unlike other states that leave it up to the courts In Illinois if it is justified you can't be sued its written in our law !! No charges will be filed against him was a statement issued by the Illinois State Police as it was a justified shooting !! Thus the BG's are unable to sue anyone !!

They have no way to sue him !!

 

[Ozark Marine]

It's Illinois. The home owner will be put on trial for shooting the BG if the local DA is anti 2A. Does the home owner have a FOID?... Why didn't he retreat?. BAC level? Is the weapon registered with the state?
The only thing the home owner has going is he is in Central Ill.
The bad guy will plea out to time served, maybe 6 months.

 

[Whitwabit]

And a FOID card. That's a " Firearms Owner Identification card" to all of you who live in Free States.
I keep my old one to remind me of why I left Illinois.

The are some law suits trying to eliminate that card .. not sure how far they have proceed thru the court system as yet ..

They have passed a ruling/law where if you carry your conceal carry license you don't need to carry or show your FOID Card as the numbers for both are the same .. you can show the FOID Card either/or the Conceal Carry License now to buy ammo !!

But you must carry your Conceal Carry License if you are carrying your firearm your FOID Card won't work ..

 

[Whitwabit]

It's Illinois. The home owner will be put on trial for shooting the BG if the local DA is anti 2A. Does the home owner have a FOID?... Why didn't he retreat?. BAC level? Is the weapon registered with the state?
The only thing the home owner has going is he is in Central Ill.
The bad guy will plea out to time served, maybe 6 months.

Not likely .. no need to retreat no registration for guns in Illinois .. doubt if he was tested for BAC .. doesn't matter what the DA thinks .. we have a pretty good AG who probably won't plea out the guy since his record is so extensive ..

So everything you say is unlikely to happen .. but thinks for injecting what you think will happen with out knowing any of the particulars !!

Thanks for your comment !!

 

[Ozark Marine]

Not likely .. no need to retreat no registration for guns in Illinois .. doubt if he was tested for BAC .. doesn't matter what the DA thinks .. we have a pretty good AG who probably won't plea out the guy since his record is so extensive ..

So everything you say is unlikely to happen .. but thinks for injecting what you think will happen with out knowing any of the particulars !!

Thanks for your comment !!

No problem. I was born in and lived in Chicago until 4 years ago. Glad to hear the state is going pro 2A. About time.
Just wish my Missouri CCW was recognized in ILL.
Would visit more.

 

[Wise_A]

Only one shot and it was in the shoulder.

Sign up for a marksmanship class.

Bekeart

One shot, and he hit the guy and effected a stop. At 2AM. With the guy wielding a deadly weapon. Bad guys also do this crazy thing--they move. Targets on the range don't.

Dunno, sounds like he did pretty good. At the end of the day, it's 1-zip for the good guys.

 

[1gunsnotenough]

I live in the middle of the sticks in Ga. Lock all my doors and keep assorted firearms handy in home and carry. It can happen anywhere. My in-laws live in town and never lock doors. They believe it will never happen to them. No situational awareness. They should have victim tattooed on their foreheads.

 

[mrchuck]

In TEXAS, the best ID card to carry is your CHL.
That's Concealed Handgun License.
Looks just like your Texas Driver's license.
I carry them together,back to back.

 

[jmace57]

In TEXAS, the best ID card to carry is your CHL.
That's Concealed Handgun License.
Looks just like your Texas Driver's license.
I carry them together,back to back.

..Actually now called the LTC (license to carry) since open carry was OKed.

 

[Old TexMex]

Home invasion fail

Deputy Sheriff buddy was sitting quietly reading at home alone, and a door opened in another room. He confronted a tweeker who immediatly raised hands, said "I'm leavin' I'm leavin', turned, opened a door and stepped into the half bath! A minute passed and the goof knocked on the door and asked could he please come out.
The Deputy opened the door a little, tossed in a pair of cuffs. The goof then came out with the cuffs on.
Wonder why they call it dope?

 

[Brasky]

Reminds me of the people that "carry this gun instead of that gun when they feel they might need it"

How do you predict the future?

 

[Mistered]

After drinking Christmas Eve with friends and family, they walked to the Stahl Avenue home, thinking it was the residence of a relative - who lives three blocks away.

I am not necessarily going to discount this part - something similar happened to a friend of mine once, (someone did, in fact enter his house mistakenly - but left quickly) HOWEVER - the rules change when they become aggressive, pick up heavy objects, advance on the homeowner etc. then all 'reasons' are out the door. Good on the homeowner. I just hope the 'mistaken house' possibility doesn't become a defense and influence an issue of 'intent'.

 

[Whitwabit]

I am not necessarily going to discount this part - something similar happened to a friend of mine once, (someone did, in fact enter his house mistakenly - but left quickly) HOWEVER - the rules change when they become aggressive, pick up heavy objects, advance on the homeowner etc. then all 'reasons' are out the door. Good on the homeowner. I just hope the 'mistaken house' possibility doesn't become a defense and influence an issue of 'intent'.

Since the first thing the Perp did after entering the house was tear off a burner from the oven to use as a weapon I would have to discount the theory that they entered the house accidently and thought it was a friends home !!

 

[Bpx4st]

Reminds me of the people that "carry this gun instead of that gun when they feel they might need it"

How do you predict the future?

That's kind of what I ask my wife when she asked me why I carried in the house.

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[okiegtrider]

The Deputy opened the door a little, tossed in a pair of cuffs. The goof then came out with the cuffs on.
Wonder why they call it dope?

I love stories like that!

 

[okiegtrider]

In TEXAS, the best ID card to carry is your CHL.
That's Concealed Handgun License.
Looks just like your Texas Driver's license.
I carry them together,back to back.

And yours have an address in Gun Barrel City, TX.

That's awesome!

 

[Rastoff]

Only one shot and it was in the shoulder.

Sign up for a marksmanship class.

Bekeart

You might want to rethink this snarky comment:

He fired just one round, into Casey Rice's left shoulder, all the while pinning Jordan Rice to the ground.

He's pinning a struggling person to the ground and still manages to get a shot off that hits the perpetrator with very low light conditions. Pretty good shooting if you ask me.

Also, for those that are wondering about the bad guy's choice of weapon, I don't think it's that unreasonable. The cast iron pieces that go over the burner on the stove just lift up. It's not unreasonable that he just grabbed the first thing that came to hand. Sure, it's not the best tool, but it's something and still a deadly weapon to me so, that just makes the shoot more justified.

Also, I don't know what the laws are in IL, but here in CA it doesn't matter if it was a drunken mistake. The law here says that the homeowner is presumed to be in fear of death or great bodily harm if someone forces their way into your home.

The door on this guy's house was locked, right?