Some gun humor

I've owned a 500 A Square, 460 Weatherby, and a 458 Winchester Magnum. Still have a 416 Rigby and 375 H&H.

None of them were/are pleasant from a bench, but it helped when I positioned my body correctly. Took many sessions to figure that out when I was younger. One of the worst beatings I ever took was 30 rounds from a relatively light 458 Winchester off of a bench while leaning too far forward into the stock.

I found all of them manageable as long as marathon sessions were avoided. I would not consider myself recoil tolerant, but I learned to shoot them pretty well.
 
I love the cartoon. My 45/110 Shiloh Sharps with 400 grain slugs may be on the edge of that, but black powder does not seem to have such a sharp kick

I have a Sharps in 45-90 and with either 405 or 500gr those solid butt plates talk to you, but between the black powder and the weight of the gun they aren't that bad. I can sit down and fire 20 rounds with no ill effects.

I suspect 20 rounds from my model 600 350 Remington mag would be brutal with just a steel butt plate.
 
I have a Sharps in 45-90 and with either 405 or 500gr those solid butt plates talk to you, but between the black powder and the weight of the gun they aren't that bad. I can sit down and fire 20 rounds with no ill effects.

I suspect 20 rounds from my model 600 350 Remington mag would be brutal with just a steel butt plate.

I had a 600 in 308.
Was not fun to shoot either.
Now have a 30/06 with a 16 1/2" barrel and carbon fiber stock.
Not too much fun at the bench,do better standing bracing on a post.
 
Years back I got acquainted with Ed Hall, who was a gun writer for a couple gun magazines. He had guns sent to him all the time and I got to shoot a lot of interesting things when I was at his house!

He got in a single shot pistol called a Competitor. It was like a TC Contender and had dozens of barrels available. For some unknown reason he ordered a barrel in .458WM. He showed it to me and I said wow a Howdah gun. He laughing said want to try it. Being a person not too bothered by recoil I said sure. I have shot full house 45.70s, 444 TC pistols with no problem

He told me that this is what I have to do is shoot it in stages.

First shot was about double the kick of most .44 magnums. Next shot was about double the recoil of the first. I then went for the 3rd shot and that one was getting my attention.

He then said at this point I have not thought that the person shooting should go beyond this. You had good control so if you want I will let you shoot the factory full power load.

Well I did and let me say the experience was exhilarating. He said laughingly want to go again and for the first time I refused as my hand was hurting. It felt like my palm was struck by a strong person that well knew how to use a billy club on a open palm. It bothered me for about a week, but went back to normal
 
Many years ago a fellow let me shoot his 600 NE H&H. . darn thing weighed about 12 pounds. Once was enough...really. I also had a Contender in 45-70. Shot ok 1st 3 rounds 4th was out a fair bit...5th was usually in never never land. It had to go. Put a Bushnell pistol scope on it...lasted less than a box of ammo...I didn't last 2 boxes
 
I dropped in on some family friends in SC once weekend eons ago and was invited to go on a deer drive. I didn't have a gun, shotguns mostly used, so the rich guy in the hunt club loaned me his safari gun, a .458 Win double. Luckily I didn't see any deer, but at the hunting camp afterwards, they all pressed me to shoot it. Rich guy drooped two artillery rounds in it and handed it to me. The target was an old Styrofoam cooler about 100 yards away. When I shot, it was Boom-Boom! Both barrels fired. Dang near broke my shoulder. I won't even pick up an empty .458 case now. All these years I've felt I was set up by the club members. The hooting and hollering may have been a clue.
 
I dropped in on some family friends in SC once weekend eons ago and was invited to go on a deer drive. I didn't have a gun, shotguns mostly used, so the rich guy in the hunt club loaned me his safari gun, a .458 Win double. Luckily I didn't see any deer, but at the hunting camp afterwards, they all pressed me to shoot it. Rich guy drooped two artillery rounds in it and handed it to me. The target was an old Styrofoam cooler about 100 yards away. When I shot, it was Boom-Boom! Both barrels fired. Dang near broke my shoulder. I won't even pick up an empty .458 case now. All these years I've felt I was set up by the club members. The hooting and hollering may have been a clue.

You better watch folks from South Carolina! THEY have a strange sense of humor sometimes!!:rolleyes::cool:
Larry
 
I had to look in my copy of Rifles & Rifle Shooting by Charles Askins (1931 reprint). He has a chart for minimum weight of a rifle for particular cartridges. What caught my eye was the .600 Jeffery...20 pounds. Same for the 4 bore. Now that's some recoil. :eek:
 
I had to look in my copy of Rifles & Rifle Shooting by Charles Askins (1931 reprint). He has a chart for minimum weight of a rifle for particular cartridges. What caught my eye was the .600 Jeffery...20 pounds. Same for the 4 bore. Now that's some recoil. :eek:

Barrett .50 cals are about 30 pounds of rifle.
 
Weight is your friend in the big bores. I've looked at some of those Magnums with advertised gun weights of 7 1/2 lbs and cringed.

A 10.5 lb .338 shooting a 250 gr bullet at an honest 2650 f/s recoils 14 lbs. And, it's a push, not a punch.
 
I've never shot one. Is the kick any worse than a 12ga slug? Or a 10ga buckshot load?

I got a batch of name brand 12ga slugs that were overloaded.
Kicked way harder than the Brenneke Black Magic and other rounds I had shot that session.
I stopped after two. My wife came over from her bench and asked if anything was wrong as those shots had been much louder than the rest. She said the vultures that had been orbiting overhead left immediately after shooting those hot rounds. Cleaning the gun at home I found the mounted Streamlight had stopped working!
 
A classic.

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Way back whenI wanted a 10 gao I got a Mercury Magnum double Didn't make a 10 ga auto...then. Man that thing was a killer...on both ends. One morning I was shootin a goose at about 45 yds...shoulda used the 1100. Darn thing doubled on me..shocked the heck outta me...kilt that goose too. The rest of that season it did it 4 more times. I sold it to a gunsmith. It would hurt when she touched off both barrels
 
Well, I've shot 30-06, .308 and 12 ga slugs, and didn't mind a full range session with any of them.
Like Tom S. anecdote above, about 35 years ago, I fired one round of .458 Win through a Model 70 Safari, and never again, unless I'm facing a charging elephant. Here are some numbers for comparison:
cartridge........gun wt...recoil energy ft-lb...recoil velocity fps
12ga slug.........7.5.........28.8....................?
.308 150gr.........7..........15.8....................11.7
30-06 150gr.......8..........17.6....................11.9
.458 Win 500gr...9..........62.3....................21.1

Recoil energy is how hard your shoulder gets pushed, and recoil velocity is a measure of how fast it happens.
The .458 recoil sensation is double to 2 to4 times as hard and twice as fast as most of us are used to.
I suspect if you were so brave as to shoot a box of .458 Win through a Winchester 70 Safari, you'd have a headache, a bruised shoulder and maybe a detached retina.
A heavier rifle would ameliorate that a bit.
Hell, you want to stop a charging elephant???? Take away his credit card.
 

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