Starbucks caved

[arjay]

True, but if you decide to do it you should not be subject to any harassment. Just look how many people got stopped by LE because they used their right of open carry.
Would you be okay being stopped because you used your right of wearing your ski mask to 7eleven?[/QUOTE]

Rights and a sense of judgement (common sense) are two different things.We continue to write and pass more laws every day because a small segment of society figures if it ain't against the law ima gonna do it.

 

[Xtasy]

Rights and a sense of judgement (common sense) are two different things.We continue to write and pass more laws every day because a small segment of society figures if it ain't against the law ima gonna do it.

If we start requiring a justification for a right we have a serious issue. We should always look for a justification if we want to limit a right.

If open carry is allowed by law, should I have to justify why I open carry? Absolutely not!

 

[HKB]

I find it ironic that the biggest Starbucks supporters aren't NRA members here or there. Strange.... really. Well.... maybe not.

 

[the ringo kid]

I'm not a big Starbucks fan for a lot of reasons... I don't even care much for their coffee. However, I don't blame them after the was this has played out.

I stopped spending there over 18 months ago. Not because anyone being rude and unfriendly or anything--mostly it was I was getting tired of waiting up to an hour to sit at a small table. Also, I agree-their coffee isnt as good as it would seem but--I did like their Sausage, Egg & Cheese Muffins.

 

[labworm]

I stopped spending there over 18 months ago. Not because anyone being rude and unfriendly or anything--mostly it was I was getting tired of waiting up to an hour to sit at a small table. Also, I agree-their coffee isnt as good as it would seem but--I did like their Sausage, Egg & Cheese Muffins.

A slice of their chocolate cake.

 

[duppie]

I find it ironic that the biggest Starbucks supporters aren't NRA members here or there. Strange.... really. Well.... maybe not.

Since I choose to support more grassroots gun rights organizations such as"The NJ second amendment Society" with my finances and time instead of some overbearing and out of touch corporate money machine that had basically abandoned my home state, I have every right to an opinion.... perhaps more so than someone who donated $19.99 to justify putting a badge next to their handle on a firearms site with only 12 posts to their credit

 

[Jessie]

As in any trusting relationship a certain amount of time and experience must be accrued before a that relationship is considered valid.....at least IMHO....so the answer is Yes. I, as a new member of this forum expected to "make my bones"and gradually gain credibility if not acceptance...I in turn expect the ones who come after me to contemplate the same.....

But, isn't it their Right not to???

 

[duppie]

But, isn't it their Right not to???

Entirely.....I just don't have to agree to it and in your words... isn't that my right?

 

[Xtasy]

Entirely.....I just don't have to agree to it and in your words... isn't that my right?

Absolutely, but I think most of the people here in this Forum won't agree on this:

I in turn expect the ones who come after me to contemplate the same.....

 

[the ringo kid]

A slice of their chocolate cake.

I never tried that but--I also used to get different Scones. I tried one of their Teas which was really good but--im used to getting free-refills of my Tea at places like: Cracker Barrel, Chili's etc. Today at C.B--had my fill of their unsweetened teas and I feel bloated.

 

[Doug M.]

I have no feelings about Starbucks one way or the other. I rarely buy coffee outside of home and have my own at work, too. HOWEVER: the open carry folks have gone on the path of their wishes, and what we are getting is a more entrenched group of enemies. I get the concept of OC as a political statement, but it was always counter productive in the long run and that is coming out more now.

I have the right to wear some of my training shirts from EAG when I buy groceries, but wearing my "See the mother****er, shoot the mother****er. Quit thinking about it." shirt, while a sound paradigm, is going to get a couple of groups of handwringers bent out of shape. While I personally hate handwringers, I can make enough enemies by my unpleasant nature when annoyed. I don't need to do it that way. Same with the "Un**** yourself" T-shirt. Having that as a tat on my triceps that shows in some shirts with really short sleeves is enough for me.

 

[the ringo kid]

Oh and not to keep straying far from topic--but this is related in a way. I read a comment by another on another forum who was complaining about the Wealthy--that when they retire? they should give up what they put into Social Security--and I was the only one who chimed up and said: "Why should they? they paid into it-it's theirs."

My point is--that if I were still doing business with Starbucks? and since from the story I read--the man did seem to ask in a polite way-for those not to bring in weapons. One has got to respect that even if one may not agree with it?

 

[HKB]

Since I choose to support more grassroots gun rights organizations such as"The NJ second amendment Society" with my finances and time instead of some overbearing and out of touch corporate money machine that had basically abandoned my home state, I have every right to an opinion.... perhaps more so than someone who donated $19.99 to justify putting a badge next to their handle on a firearms site with only 12 posts to their credit

I just hope your eye sight is better at the range.

I do agree with you that the number of posts is a good indicator of manhood.

 

[duppie]

Absolutely, but I think most of the people here in this Forum won't agree on this:

...and that's fine, that is what dialog and disagreement is all about. I value disagreement because it makes people actually think,reason and formulate answers as to why we disagree.....the trick is to disagree without taking it personally. I admittedly falter at times but learn something new every time and I thank all of you for the privilege........

 

[arjay]

I find it ironic that the biggest Starbucks supporters aren't NRA members here or there. Strange.... really. Well.... maybe not.

Here we go again...

 

[Hack]

Starbucks caved and went to the dark side.

That's not what I got out of Shultz's letter.

"First, this is a request and not an outright ban."

It appears to be a simple request to either tone down and hopefully, end the 'debate' at their stores. And move it to another venue.

On a side note: I don't like Starbucks coffee either. Something not right about paying $5+ for a 'fancy' cup of Joe, but I've done it. And not just at Starbucks.

Just my $.02.

 

[Xtasy]

I do agree with you that the number of posts is a good indicator of manhood.

I feel sorry for you

 

[A10]

I like Starbucks logo.....

 

[arjay]

I think Starbucks is asking gun owners to behave like grown ups.They have to answer to the company owners (stockholders) just like everyone else does.

 

[duppie]

I think Starbucks is asking gun owners to behave like grown ups.They have to answer to the company owners (stockholders) just like everyone else does.

Precisely........