Precisely accurate. We really are that shallow.
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I look at this in a different way We lost people going to the moon . we lost test pilots-mountain climbers ,and others .Mankind will always do risky things that is how we advance .II t is sad that this happened.Did not hear this talk when DISCOVER came apart on lift off.
But i may be wrong I usually am
But i may be wrong I usually am
Very little on the Greek shipwreck from what I have seen.
Disbelief and anger among Greek shipwreck victims’ relatives as millions spent on Titan rescue effort
Just because the source is often ridiculed as a tabloid doesn't mean the story isn't true...
...Ben
Regardless, it is not an adventure I would have undertaken for any reason...
...Ben
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Or ... you just wish to say so.
If one is so inclined, they could tune into a Chicago PD live stream and hear multiple reports of people shot in the street virtually any night.
There's plenty there to take offense to and plenty here to be offended .... if we ever actually heard about it. There will be no news coverage. A 14-26 year old bleeding out in the street crying out for his mother is just too common.
Bubbas high tech redneck garage project caving in two miles deep ... that just doesn't happen every day. Thus the media flocks to it.
We do not control what **** reporters will converge upon. We can only discuss what we are given.
Now ... if you could explain a bit of the back story behind the individual being burned to death in the streets of Mogadishu, perhaps we might have something to address.
We know nothing about it. You gave us no motive, no history of the animosity, no cause, and little effect.
Do you just enjoy condemnation?
So you believe that our government services should spend our tax dollars with no regard to effectiveness. That is a good way to end up 30 trillion in debt.
That’s hyperbole and you know it. You can do and be better.
I’ve clearly stated the reasons for sending a vehicle down to confirm the implosion, as well as the value of recovering key pieces of wreckage.
I’ve also discussed the training benefits of the search effort itself.
If we followed your argument to its logical conclusion, we’d keep all our military aircraft on the ground, all our naval vessels in port and all are soldiers and Marines busy sweeping the parade ground and spiffing up the barracks rather than spend money, wear out equipment or expand ammunition on training exercises.
Blame the press for lack of coverage.
Blame the public for not caring.
Blame the Greek Navy for not bothering to search.
But be very aware that the outrage is from the families of victims who were refugees on a massively over loaded ship fleeing to a continent where they are frankly not welcomed.
That outrage is no doubt heart felt and justified but it needs to be targeted at the Pakistani government and in no small part the Pakistani citizens for failing to address the economic issues in Pakistan that cause people to take extreme risks to flee a country.
It’s also hard to be to sympathetic about European nations not being excited about taking Pakistani refugees, when Pakistan has adopted a policy of not taking Afghan refugees.
None of these issue have anything at all to do with the US having the resources and the motivation to implement a limited search and recovery operation for the Titan.
Our news media has gone downhill.
I recall broadcasters like Walter Cronkite delivering actual fact verified news and when opinions were presented they were identified as such and opposing views were also presented.
That ended when the Fairness Doctrine stopped being enforced by the administration of one party in 1989, and then repealed by the administration of another party in 2011.
To be fair it also became far less relevant and effective with the rise of cable television and took a nose dive with 24 hour news cycles where talking heads spouting opinion mis represented as news were used as filler.
Fast forward a generation and most Americans can’t tell the difference between a news program and talking head entertainers posing as news.
And behind it all is a huge for profit industry that has become completely untethered from any code of ethics, commitment to truth, or any sense of public duty or national welfare.
We’ve been here before, with the yellow journalism so prevalent in the 1890s.
But we have to recognize the cess pool that our media has become and require accuracy and accountability - at the expense of unregulated profit taking.
Just making an observation.
The IED was an al Shabaab bomb on a Tuk Tuk; only the suicide bomber knew. The driver, the other passenger, and all the people walking on the sidewalks to Yardimeli Hospital for Morhers and Babies (right wall with the detonation marks) were minding their own business. Until they were no longer able. Just another Tuesday in Mogadishu.
The Titanic grave tour was purely pleasure seeking. No one had an actual need to be there.
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First of all I am not at all convinced we will learn anything other than the Titan was a stupid idea. Certainly not worth anywhere near the money or effort. May well be better off spending money studying the sex lives of dung beetles in Africa, but we are probably doing that already.
We spend about 1/2 our budget on the military. We out spent the other 19 top military countries combine and 17 of those are our allies. For what? For years we were sold on the need to be able to defend against the Russians. Now we know just how effective they are in a ground war. If they started a nuke war all the aircraft, Abrams tanks, war ships are worthless. Eisenhower himself warned against the military industrial complex. We have more than enough nukes just in the county I live in to destroy civilization as we know it. Explain why we need more. I would rather see my fellow Marines sweeping parade decks than being killed in the worthless wars they have died in since I became one. Those wars were even stupider than the "rescue mission" for some nit wits that were know to be dead before we started.
Just because we have resources does not mean we should piss them away and go deep into debt for worthless causes.
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^^^^Inevitable.
Can you even begin to fathom people forever lost in space begging for help? I would not want to be in that position. Especially on any of the future Mars missions.
As for space tourism....just up and down as it is...well if they don't burn up quickly on reentry, I see a scenario where they meet a fate like the cosmonauts in the Soyuz 11 mission.
Maybe we should just slow down a bit and let technology for both these kinds of explorations improve a bit before trying them.
In 1977 I had to write a college paper for a journalism class on "Yellow Journalism".
My view of media news was forever altered by that. I now trust none on their faces and try to verify using as many sources as I can to fill in the blanks and gray areas.
I try to spit out the sticks and swallow the hay. It has become increasingly hard to do that.
My thoughts on the departed;
Mother nature can destroy anything man can build
Robert
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My thoughts on the departed;
No rose grows on a sailors grave ....
Indeed. Many souls have been swallowed up.
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That, and he is a well known name and articulate on camera and seems to have the ability to explain stuff in layman's terms.
...BenI like shrimp, swordfish, flounder, crab, tuna, calamari……
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