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I wish I had known that you guys liked these....I traded this one even up for a 1960s Colt Detective Special....

Edit...Roy said this one shipped September 1996...

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Not that many were made. One year production and in the words of the SCSW "Scarce gun, few sales reported."

There was also a 4503, but since only 10 were made, you won't hear much about them.

This is an excellent thread. I am a little surprised though. All this adoration and affection the for 4506- x. What about the blued version 4505? I don't see it even mentioned In this thread yet it's essentially that same pistol. I believe they produced this in 1991.




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I bought my 4506-1 "dash 3" with adjustable night sights from a member of the forum a few years ago, after he had Trijicon relamp the night sights. According to Mr. Jinks, it shipped to a police department in Connecticut in September 1997. It has some scuffs from being carried in a holster, but it is a great pistol - very accurate and easy to shoot.
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Here is my 4506-1 from 1997. Roy Jinks called it a "Special Order Los Angeles Police." What drew me to it in the consignment case about 11 years ago was the factory Adjustable Night Sights. I had not seen those on a 3rd Gen up to that time. And frankly, I've not seen them on any of the other 3rd Gens I've seen since. Here are some photos, including a section of the factory letter I ordered sign by Roy Jinks.


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Unfortunately, although I specifically asked for information about the sights, the letter didn't mention them at all. I'm unsure whether that level of detail isn't included in S&W's records, or if Mr. Jinks forgot to include it in my letter. The paragraph about my pistol simply stated:

"We have researched your Smith & Wesson Model 4506-1 , caliber .45 ACP pistol in company records which indicate that your handgun, with serial number VZC2992 was shipped from our factory on September 24, 1997, and delivered to City of West Haven Police Department, West Haven, CT. The records indicate that this pistol was shipped with a 5 inch barrel, satin finish, and black plastic grips."



I asked him a question about the adjustable night sights, too. As you can see in his letter from 11 years ago, he did address it, but not with much information. I think Roy gave a little more detail in his letters back then.


By the way, since Roy did not mention night sights at all, does the date on the Trijicon night sights match the year of the pistol? I have seen these pistols with after market Trijicons.


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I bought my pistol from a forum member, who bought it used without box or papers. He stated that he sent the slide in to Trijicon to replace the dead tritium vials. The rear sight has no markings at all, and the front sight has Trijicon markings from 2013. Without any confirmation from the factory letter or the original box, I don't know whether my 4506-1 was shipped with adjustable night sights, or if they were installed later by a police armorer or private owner. Based on the sights being dead a few years ago, I would guess they were installed soon after delivery, if not by S&W. I do like the adjustable night sights, and plan to replace the tritium vials when they get dim again.
 
I've never owned any of the big 45?? series, but always wanted one, just never hit it at the right price. I loved my little 3913, but now there are so many choices that are lighter and/or carry more ammo, it's hard to justify keeping it.
 
S&W 4506 been one of my EDC for a while. I have back pain right at the belt line...so if my back hurts, I have my 4506 in a shoulder rig with 2 spares under right armpit....
I have the habit when holstering of engaging the safety/hammer drop, and once in the leather, I pop the safety off again... with the shoulder rig, I think it might be an added level of safety to be safety on whilst inserting, but the safety isn't as conveniently located as a 1911, plus being DA/SA, safety off once in the holster is plenty safe.... oh... yeah... I think maybe I got in this habit when I was learning double-taps and 2-body, one head.... as the gun was cocked after that first shot and it was essentially the same as putting a cocked single action in the holster unless hammer dropped.....
(My other EDC is a shield with the 2 rnd mag extension... though I hate plastic guns, this little pistol has been extremely reliable over thousnads of rounds... and I am aware of one industry gentlemen who has 15,000 rnds thru a rental)
 
The was a fella here, years ago, who had a documented 28K through his 4506. He maintained it and changed the recoil springs every 3K.

When last we heard from him, it was still ticking away. Reliably and accurately. ;) Fine guns. Regards 18DAI
 
Regarding "CCW".... not too common here in the peoples republic of californiastan... but a few of the inland counties are pretty dang close to "Shall Issue"....
My observation... newbie CCW'ers are pretty anal about not "Printing"... after about 3 to 6 months, most folks just make sure their shirt or over-garment covers it...because we quickly learn, most folks.... even LEO's.. just don't notice....
Only once EVER has someone detected my firearm and commented.... only because the shoulder strap was showing cuz the collar of my jacket slipped down.... he didn't see the pistol print....
 
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The was a fella here, years ago, who had a documented 28K through his 4506. He maintained it and changed the recoil springs every 3K.

When last we heard from him, it was still ticking away. Reliably and accurately. ;) Fine guns. Regards 18DAI

I am at about 12,000 rnds... of course not loaded to "Maximum"... though the gun is a tank and could take it.....

I have replaced the recoil spring, and the ejector is reputed to be a 10,000 rnd part... sheet metal... mine puked around 12,000 rounds.... it will do additional damage to the little nylon plunger in the slide if fired after the failure...
easy to replace... prolly even field replace'able.... I would suggest everyone with a 45XX get a replacement part and keep it in range bag with an appropriately sized punch.... $5.00 part... order two!
 
I bought my pistol from a forum member, who bought it used without box or papers. He stated that he sent the slide in to Trijicon to replace the dead tritium vials. The rear sight has no markings at all, and the front sight has Trijicon markings from 2013. Without any confirmation from the factory letter or the original box, I don't know whether my 4506-1 was shipped with adjustable night sights, or if they were installed later by a police armorer or private owner. Based on the sights being dead a few years ago, I would guess they were installed soon after delivery, if not by S&W. I do like the adjustable night sights, and plan to replace the tritium vials when they get dim again.


I've been interested in finding someone else with a 3rd Gen auto with confirmed factory adjustable night sights for sometime now. Here is a thread from a couple of years ago regarding the LAPD 4506-1 pistols. The posts regarding the adjustable night sights issue are Nos. 15, 16, 19, 22, 24, 25,29, 30 and 31. (4506-1 for duty)
 
All this talk of 4506-1 makes me feel old. I prefer my 645 or 745 along with my 39, 59, and 52 no dash. Anyone else feeling this way? I do own a 4006 and am looking for a 1006 to cover the newer base.
 
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All this talk of 4506-1 makes me feel old. I prefer my 645 or 745 along with my 39, 59, and 52 no dash. Anyone else feeling this way? I do own a 4006 and am looking for a 1006 to cover the newer base.

With the straight back-strap grip, the 4506 is basically a 645 with the never-ending-always-coming-loose-ambi-safety-screw issue fixed.....
I think with the 4506 was introduced the magazines with the rubber base to stop tearing up police car seats as well....
(I think my 645 had a half-cock and the 4506 doesn't)....
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All this talk of 4506-1 makes me feel old. I prefer my 645 or 745 along with my 39, 59, and 52 no dash. Anyone else feeling this way? I do own a 4006 and am looking for a 1006 to cover the newer base.
Hey, we don't want you to feel left out. I found this ANIB sitting in the consignment case a little over 10 years ago. Here you go:


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I own a 4586 model and have found it extremely accurate. Presently it is a DAO, but that might change. Kind of a sidelight to the discussion about the 4506 model. At one time our Sheriff's Dept here were issued those. One Deputy who I know hated his. He always called it "A club that holds bullets." I offered to shoot it to see if it was his skills or the gun that was his problem, but he would never take me up on the offer. I bought a new Sig P226 in stainless and found it to be way too heavy and hard to carry, so got rid of it and kept the 4586.
 
I was reminded of this thread last week. I escaped the Godforsaken gunshop as the Wuhan plague ramped up last March. Good riddance. It amuses me when I see threads on gunboards titled "Stupid things I've heard in gunshops". Wanna hear some weapons grade stupidity? Try working in one. ;)

So, the new owners/manager of the local indoor range heard I was not working there any longer and offered me my job back as an adjunct instructor and to work there as a range officer/counter help a few days a week. Thank you sweet baby Jesus and bearded Jesus too! Best job I have ever had.

Last week a fellow came in and saw my 4506-1 on my belt. It was a warm day and I had no jacket on. He also saw the tag on my Black Ford and inquired if I was "18DAI from the gun boards?" I pled guilty and we spoke for a few minutes. He had his twenty something daughter with him and was teaching her to shoot. He mentioned this particular thread and said it was the reason he picked up his 5906. Very easy to shoot well, due to the weight, build and excellent trigger. He was using it to teach his daughter marksmanship and gun safety. She is moving to Charlotte for work. Charlotte is a liberal meca complete with the usual high crime rate that comes with liberal mecas. ;)

A lot has changed since I started this thread. The Wuhan plague and the subsequent buying craze and ammo hoarding/scalping has changed the local landscape and the National landscape too. Particularly as it applies to firearms. There are more new shooters seeking instruction than there were back in 2009/2010 during the reign of Comrade Zero. So on my days off, where I am not on duty in the evening, I provide instruction. Teaching either basic pistol 101 or intermediate pistol. I don't teach bullseye or competition shooting as we have other instructors who provide those services. I only teach you to be safe, hit what you aim at, fight with your handgun and hopefully prevail. Whether the student will prevail depends on their mindset and how much effort they will put into the endevour. And a small percent of the outcome of any potential unfortunate incident depends on their hardware and understanding of it and proficiency with same.

Sadly, it appears that only a few are willing to put in the effort. And of those who wish to practice and develope skill, they are hampered by the slim availability and high price of ammo. When it can be found. This has caused the instructors to come up with different methods to teach the students as well as maintain their own skills. We have taken to getting the maximum training out of the minimum use of live fire. Typically, during an hour lesson, 40 minutes of it will be done in the classroom, using dummy blueguns, or dry firing with inert guns. Then, once the concepts are grasped by the student, we go out on the range and live fire. Typically 24 to 50 rounds with service caliber handguns. More often, the rental fleet of G44 22's are used.

Where my 4506-1 comes into this update is during the training drills the instructors have come up with. Their favorite is the "hostage rescue shot". Done cold bore, with the gun you are carrying with one round of carry ammo. Shot at a 3x5 "box", drawn next to a horrified looking hostage. At 10 yards, from the holster, on a shot timer, in under 3 seconds. Tougher than it sounds. Lucky for me, the weight of the 4506-1 combined with its excellent trigger, has enabled me to keep up. :)

And the local copshop has kept us in ammo to practice with. Two boxes of Winchester ranger, per customer. I never thought RA45T would be considered a bargain at $32/50 or that I would be shooting it as "range fodder". Strange times. But running it in my steel framed 45s tames the recoil. Perhaps we should start lighting our cigarettes with $20 bills too. ;)

So what are you doing to maintain your skills and train newbys during this latest round of stupidity in the gun/ammo world? Are you rolling your own from components you had in storage, or standing in the line at Academy Sports - an hour before they open on Tuesdays and Thursdays? :) Regards 18DAI
 
One of the best threads ever!!

My take-aways: My Shield 2.0 in .45 is going and I'll stick with my 4513TSW for IWB and CS45 (soon to be worked on by BCMC like he did my CS9 and th 4513) for pocket carry; a 4506 goes to the top of my "want" list (the Shield will help pay for it) although if I can find a CS 40 I'd like to complete the CS series; more time with the laser dummy round than the five minutes a day it's getting now; and it's time to unlimber the reloading stand and start rolling some of my own again.
 
I've always rolled my own training ammo. When the events of the last year began I foresaw another round of panic buying/hoarding. Consequently, I ramped up my component purchasing before everything became unobtanium. I normally shoot a minimum of twice a week, with at least 200 rounds per session. I've scaled that back to once a week, with 100 rounds per session. For the time being I've stopped shooting my occasional fun guns and concentrate on my carry guns, of which my 4506 is one. At my current rate of consumption I'm good for the next two years if necessary.
 
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