The Hollywood flip - put to the test.
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sigp220.45
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I thought if anyone would get it, you would...
Hahahaha! I’m sorry, I thought you might be making the subtle “frame crack joke, but the eek emoji threw me off! I did get it, but I was distracted repelling boarders!!
Marshal Tom
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That certainly got me thinking that I should do that with my unfired and unturned 27-2 5" or my 4" 1950 Target just to re-check your test results! Thanks for the good idea.
... and you're still early in your retirement. What will next year bring!!
Jerry
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sigp220.45
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I personally think that it would be hardest on the hole in the recoil shield, then on the center pin and the center hole in ratchet. The yoke to frame coming together has a lot of mass and area to take up the shock. The hole in recoil shield will have its off side struck the same way every time you flip it closed. The center pin and ratchet hole will have the forces spread out 360ᵒ depending on where the cylinder is each time. The tube of the yoke with be loaded a bit by the cylinder with the same directional forces every time also, with the unsupported end by ratchet getting the most. While I don't think that a few times or even 100 times will do much eventually it will add up. The larger and heavier the cylinder the sooner it will be apparent. An N frame 357 probably the worst for this as it would slam the center pin into the latch hole with the most mass.
Take a small 4 oz ball peen hammer and start lightly tapping on something similar to a front sight. Nothing at first, but with enough strikes the top it will slowly mushroom. Keep flipping that little 38 and eventually that hole in the recoil shield will be egged out and the one in the ratchet will enlarge a tiny bit. 500, 1000 flips, 5,000. 10,000 to cause enough to effect accuracy, I don't know, I do know it WILL happen.
Take one and fire a group from a Ransom rest, flip it 100 times, fire it from rest again, repeat. Probably take some time to see anything on the targets. Be an interesting experiment for YOUR gun. Not mine. LOL
I not saying a flip or two is trashes a gun. Hardly. But it will slowly cause un needed damage.
Take a small 4 oz ball peen hammer and start lightly tapping on something similar to a front sight. Nothing at first, but with enough strikes the top it will slowly mushroom. Keep flipping that little 38 and eventually that hole in the recoil shield will be egged out and the one in the ratchet will enlarge a tiny bit. 500, 1000 flips, 5,000. 10,000 to cause enough to effect accuracy, I don't know, I do know it WILL happen.
Take one and fire a group from a Ransom rest, flip it 100 times, fire it from rest again, repeat. Probably take some time to see anything on the targets. Be an interesting experiment for YOUR gun. Not mine. LOL
I not saying a flip or two is trashes a gun. Hardly. But it will slowly cause un needed damage.
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is like slamming shut a side by side double without holding the lever over. It is just bad form. Bad form!
I guess I am going to have to let my banned buddy back in the club. I still won't be flipping, but now I can talk to him. Steelslaver always has good metal advice above. BTW, that 1905 needs a good coat of RenWax.
While I'm one of those who feel that a rare closing flip is not likely to cause damage, I'd like to make one slight suggestion about the testing. Get a yoke alignment gauge/spud and verify yoke alignment with the center pin hole in the breech face/recoil shield prior to starting the test. Then repeat after your testing.
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sigp220.45
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I guess I am going to have to let my banned buddy back in the club. I still won't be flipping, but now I can talk to him. Steelslaver always has good metal advice above. BTW, that 1905 needs a good coat of RenWax.
Haha, its had several coats. I’m afraid that’s as good as it gets.
My point seems to be lost on a few posters. A single flip does nothing. A hundred flips also do nothing. Maybe 10,000 flips would eventually do a little something, but I doubt it. Most guns don’t even get fired 10,000 times, let alone flipped shut that much.
I hadn’t flipped a gun shut before today, and I will continue to not flip them shut. But if someone does flip a revolver shut near me, I won’t need to go into therapy (even if its my gun).
S&W-Keeper
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WOW! Say it ain't so.I know people that have taken their kids out of their wil for doing that.
I have seen two bent, or warped yokes on S&W revolvers. I do not know what caused it as I was not present when it occurred one was severe enough that you had to give it a little push to completely latch it. The other had just a slight gap. Will an occasional flip of the wrist do it I don't know could depend on how hard you do it, could depend on size of gun. I just have no need of such antics to close a revolver. Your gun your your decision I just don't see a need.
Please stop this madness, it’s too disturbing. Let’s get back to the practical, best caliber for Grizzlies in Georgia or Manatees in Montana. Or why having less than 48 rounds ready may get you killed at the Winn Dixie.
well if it the 48 rounds are only 9mm you would be right, especially if the other guy is a meth head wearing car harts.
Ain't no Manatees in Montana as the crocodiles ate them all. The crocodiles are gone now because the Sasquatches started making moccasins from them. No Sasquatches left cause the saber-tooth tiger got them all. The saber tooth tigers are gone because the grizzlies killed them all.
How was the popcorn? Buttered or no butter?
So , you have proven that you can usually "get away with" an action that is definitely a bad practice.
That applies to a lot of things in life ... but then - every now and then one of those bad practices bites you right in the ***.
That applies to a lot of things in life ... but then - every now and then one of those bad practices bites you right in the ***.
How about this, loaded cylinder, Hollywood flip and as it happens one outside case slides back a bit and hangs on the edge of recoil shield. That would be rather hard on the yoke tube.
