The new 586

[Dirty Bert]

Happy Friday S&W Brothers and Sisters!

I would love to get a real nice old 586 with a 6" barrel but the are difficult to find in really good shape.
So I've been looking into the newest and greatest? 586 now offered.
I'm sure this has been talked about before but I'm still finding my way on this new fangled communication platform.
I dont think the blueing process is the same as it once was by the look and depth. My older revolvers are really easy to clean after a day at the range. Pretty much just wipe them off with my oil tag and I'm good to go.
How does this compare to the new ones?
I think the new 586 is a beautiful looking gun but im on the fence about pulling the proverbial trigger!
I don't mind the metal injection parts nor would the lock be a deal breaker.
I like clean guns and if cleaning them wears the blueing off it would be no a go.
What do you think about the new model?
Smith and Wesson 586, 6".

Thanks in advance and have a great weekend!

 

[jjmIII_Ruger]

I'm seeing $850 for a new one. An old no lock classic is $1000-1600+.

Sure, I'd try a new one. You can remove the lock if that is a big deal for you. I'm sure you can clean it w/out bluing loss. The new guns seem well built. If your wallet is too full...get an old one. It won't go down in value.

 

[rogerwnuss]

Happy Friday S&W Brothers and Sisters!

I would love to get a real nice old 586 with a 6" barrel but the are difficult to find in really good shape.
So I've been looking into the newest and greatest? 586 now offered.
I'm sure this has been talked about before but I'm still finding my way on this new fangled communication platform.
I dont think the blueing process is the same as it once was by the look and depth. My older revolvers are really easy to clean after a day at the range. Pretty much just wipe them off with my oil tag and I'm good to go.
How does this compare to the new ones?
I think the new 586 is a beautiful looking gun but im on the fence about pulling the proverbial trigger!
I don't mind the metal injection parts nor would the lock be a deal breaker.
I like clean guns and if cleaning them wears the blueing off it would be no a go.
What do you think about the new model?
Smith and Wesson 586, 6".

Thanks in advance and have a great weekend!

I got one in trade a few years ago and just couldn't get over the lock. But none of the dealers were interested in it because of the lock. I had to practically give it away. So if this is a gun you'll never sell, ok.

 

[Dirty Bert]

Kinda what I was thinking too.

Old ones go up.
New ones go down.
Seems like anyway.

Thanks

 

[John Patrick]

They're all going up, imo.

 

[llowry61]

Buy an original it will retain more value in the long term and possibly appreciate. I hate locks. It would bug me every time I looked at it. Honestly you should be able to find a very nice example with a 6-inch barrel for 1000. The extra 150 is money well spent.

 

[schutz5]

Depends on what is readily available in your neck of the woods.
Old vintage might take years to show up and price goes up.
New one allows you to shoot it while you are still in this mortal coil.
Just inspect it well. Check for yoke to frame gap.
Have fun!

 

[stansdds]

The current "blueing" on S&W revolvers is nothing like that of the older revolvers. The best blued finish was on pre-1980 Smiths, that was the old Carbonia oil blue finish. In 1980, S&W switched to the more common black oxide blueing, but around 2000 switched to an EPA friendly black oxide system. This 21st century blue is black, looks thin, and does not take kindly to ammonia. Solvents containing ammonia or ammoniated compounds can give this finish a plum tint.

 

[wilburmay]

Are you going to only look at it or shoot it? I've got a 66-8 that's a absolute joy to shoot. Granted it's not blued but it is example of current mfg. methods.Get what you can afford and enjoy it for what it is. Life is too damn short.
Wilbur

 

[Krogen]

I'm also wary of the present-day blue finish. If you don't have your heart set on a blue revolver, you might consider a 686 - no finish to rub off.

 

[Dirty Bert]

I shoot the sh out of all my guns. I enjoy them fully.

 

[diecidecimi]

Something sounds weird to me. I always read, since several years, that nor S&W neither Colt can produce deep blue guns anymore due to the toxicity of the necessary compounds .
How to explain then the terrific astounding factory blueing of Manurhin MR73 and Korth ? Or the custom blueing of craftsmen like Ford's?

 

[Dirty Bert]

I looked at an mr73 just a few weeks ago and didn't see anything spectacular in its finish or its mechanics. Trigger pull was not any better than an old Smith
Smith's deep blueing looks better to me.

 

[diecidecimi]

I looked at an mr73 just a few weeks ago and didn't see anything spectacular in its finish or its mechanics. Trigger pull was not any better than an old Smith
Smith's deep blueing looks better to me.

It depends on the model you were looking at.
Service weapons, as some Defense are, were satin blue, even matt if I'm right. Sport and Match models are shiny blue, at the same level of old Smiths & Blue Royal Pythons .



and I can witness it

 

[Gunhacker]

It depends on the model you were looking at.
Service weapons, as some Defense are, were satin blue, even matt if I'm right. Sport and Match models are shiny blue, at the same level of old Smiths & Blue Royal Pythons .



and I can witness it

The sheen of blued guns depends on the degree and care it received on the polishing wheel before the bluing is applied.

If the metal is buffed to an absolute mirror finish, you will get results like that MR73.

The hue of the bluing is where the formulation or bluing method shows up.

 

[twodog max]

In my local area there is a core of revolver fans that keep them going but for the most part shooters today are enamored of high capacity mags and polymer frames. You start talking revolvers and their eyes glaze over.
For myself I have several of the lock S&W models. They shoot great the finish seems durable to me. If the lock models don't sell you could not prove by what I see. However not that many are in to hardcore collecting just shooting. If you want a new one for shooting get it and shoot the heck out of it.

 

[rogerwnuss]

I think maybe it depends on what you grew up with. I had a friend in the 70s who had a 1930s Government Model finished in what he called "the old cyanide blue" finish, and the flats of the slide looked like a blue mirror...he thought my then new Series 70's finish looked like a Mossberg shotgun.....
To me, the Colt Autos of the last thirty years look like hell because they no longer "break" the lettering on the slides , according to a Colt tech I talked to back in the mid nineties. You can see the difference between a Series 80 from the beginning and one from say, 1990.
The early Series 80's lettering looks exactly like the Series 70. The later one,well, doesn't.....
Costs have gone up, so care in prep before finishing has gone down.
This is the 586 I had and couldn't get past the lock. Finish was really quite nice. But next to my 40 year old 25-5, it was just not the same.

 

[Dirty Bert]

That's what I'm talking about 1970s deep blueing and hand craftsmanship.
Sure the mr73 is a fantastic revolver and the fit and finish are terrific it's just I personally find the blueing on the older Smith's is deeper and richer looking.
But if anyone would like to send me an mr73 I wouldn't say no that's for darn sure!

 

[Mehutch]

Well I got me one, 586-7 seven shooter. Love love love it.

 

[Dirty Bert]

That's a nice gun! I really like the stocks and the hole plug. I've never seen that before or even heard about it.
Great job and nice shooting text!