The Russians have gone in

[GypsmJim]

It's been awhile since I've been in a soon-to-be closed thread.

And its sad. Sad for the Russians AND the Ukrainians, and sad for the whole world.

Let's all just pray for them and thank God we are in America. And pray that it does not escalate beyond the borders currently breached.

When the last crisis first started, and the News reporter said the words "Pandemic", it was time to go to Cabelas with a checkbook. My sense is that the time is now as well.

 

[pharmer]

I think you’re right. I’m more concerned about China.

At least we owe them $10 trillion, hard to collect from "the enemy." Xi is "duly noting" the weakness of response. You think "chips" are scarce now, lose Taiwan and we'll learn to use the abacus. Joe

 

[wood714]

Stuff like this makes me glad I'm 64 years old.

But also makes me worry about the world my grand kids will grow into.

 

[Beemerguy53]

I am exactly as concerned as I would be if Saskatchewan invaded Manitoba.

Ya’ll have fun, though.

I'll bet that on September 1, 1939, there were a lot of Americans who turned on their radios, heard the news that Germany had invaded Poland, and shrugged it off...

 

[quikdraw67]

I hope that this ends soon, with minimal additional deaths.

I hope that this does not escalate into NATO member countries.

I hope.

 

[Rustyt1953]

Let's all just pray for them and thank God we are in America.

Amen and Amen!

 

[Beemerguy53]

My neighbor Serge is from Estonia, my wife heard his thick accent and asked him if he was from Russia...she still brings up the tongue lashing she got from him. Same is true with a Ukranian guy I know, someone asked him if he was Russian...fifteen minutes later the Ukranian still had the guy by the ear. A bit touchy, wonder why? Ask him...they don't mince words. Another friend of mine has a daughter gifted in languages, fluent in American Sign and Russian. She got a job working in Moscow for a couple of years, when she came home her father asked her the main thing she gathered after working with Russians for over two years, her reply "Never trust a Russian."

The father of one of my closest friends was from Latvia. He was a veterinary medicine student at the University of Riga when the Russians invaded and absorbed the Baltic States, and absolutely brutalized the Latvian people. When Hitler turned on Stalin and invaded the USSR, the Wehrmacht expelled the Russians from Latvia...and then drafted all the young men.

Harijs fought on the Russian front until the end of the war, when he sought out and surrendered to an American unit. As his son puts it: "My father did not enlist in the German army. He was drafted...but it didn't take a whole lot to get a Latvian kid to shoot Russians."

Harjis moved to New York City in 1950 and became a proud American citizen. But for the rest of his life, he swore than even 3000 miles of ocean was not enough space between him and the Russians...

 

[wood714]

Let's all just pray for them and thank God we are in America.

Don't forget Red Dawn!

Fast forward to the 1 minute mark.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVqK6wNkSxA[/ame]

 

[sigp220.45]

I'll bet that on September 1, 1939, there were a lot of Americans who turned on their radios, heard the news that Germany had invaded Poland, and shrugged it off...

Bet I’m right, though. Putin ain’t Hitler and the Ukraine ain’t Poland.

Let the pearl clutching continue……….

 

[llowry61]

Which political leader will soon be getting off an airplane, waving a signed peace agreement and announcing, "Peace in our times" just like in 1939?

Good old Neville and the appeasement policy.

 

[Beemerguy53]

Bet I’m right, though. Putin ain’t Hitler and the Ukraine ain’t Poland.

Let the pearl clutching continue……….

Pearl clutching...what a charming old phrase! Here's a few more....

I bet you'll have a case of the vapors when gas prices hit $7 or $8 per gallon this summer...

And when you see what your 401K is worth a couple of months from now, it will leave you in a tizzy...

You should change your screen name to Alfred E. Newman...

Okay...all kidding aside...(and I confess to being a smart-you-know-what)...

The entire world is interconnected economically. What happens in other countries does affect us all.

Also, this is the first time in almost 83 years that one European nation has invaded another without just cause or provocation. The checks and balances the world's nations put in place to prevent this sort of thing have failed...and that doesn't bode well. Other Putin-wannabes (think North Korea's Kim Jong-un) are surely watching this with interest, and gauging what they might be able to get away with.

And lastly...our sanctions have poked the bear. The US Government is warning about Russian cyber-attacks against us.

With all due respect...if you don't care about this situation, I don't think you've thought it through...

 

[sigp220.45]

Pearl clutching...what a charming old phrase! Here's a few more....

I bet you'll have a case of the vapors when gas prices hit $7 or $8 per gallon this summer...

And when you see what your 401K is worth a couple of months from now, it will leave you in a tizzy...

You should change your screen name to Alfred E. Newman...

Okay...all kidding aside...(and I confess to being a smart-you-know-what)...

The entire world is interconnected economically. What happens in other countries does affect us all.

Also, this is the first time in almost 83 years that one European nation has invaded another without just cause or provocation. The checks and balances the world's nations put in place to prevent this sort of thing have failed...and that doesn't bode well. Other Putin-wannabes (think North Korea's Kim Jong-un) are surely watching this with interest, and gauging what they might be able to get away with.

And lastly...our sanctions have poked the bear. The US Government is warning about Russian cyber-attacks against us.

With all due respect...if you don't care about this situation, I don't think you've thought it through...

No sweat. I’ve got enough old ladies worrying about it for me.

This too shall pass. We’ll see in a year.

What, me worry?

 

[biku324]

Germany gets 70% of it's energy from Russia.

France gets 60% of it's energy from France.

Putin won't cave. Putin has already won.

If we really muck it up the petrol dollars is done. Then the dollar will no longer be the world's reserve currency.

Not even close - Russia cutting off EU oil and gas cuts both ways - At this point, it’s unlikely that oil and gas supplies from Russia to Europe will be cut significantly since it would be mutually destructive for both Moscow and the European countries. Russia exports half of its crude to Europe and relies on those oil revenues, which make up a large share (43%) of its government revenues. Europe, for its part, imports from Russia more than one-third of the natural gas and more than one-quarter of the crude oil it consumes.

Cutting Russia’s Oil Flow To Europe Would Be A Disaster

 

[Nevada Ed]

Well it finally looks like the news will have something to finally talk about that has some "Body".

It sure beats high water & snow and the age old virus news.............

Let the rockets fly,

 

[Puller]

Interesting that we take for granted that the Ukrainian government are the good guys just because our media says so. We are being treated like mushrooms.

 

[biku324]

So the Ukrainians attacked Russia?

 

[Absalom]

Historical comparisons deserve a bit more circumspection.

No, Putin isn‘t Hitler. For better AND worse.

I don‘t believe he is nearly as deluded or irrational as Hitler was especially toward the end. On the other hand, Hitler didn‘t have nuclear weapons.

Putin also doesn‘t nearly have the control within Russia that Hitler had in Germany in 1939; but then I get the impression his manipulation of Russian public opinion is much smarter than the Nazis’ crude propaganda, and he still enjoys genuine popular support since many Russians believe the ridiculous fairy tales about Ukraine that the state media are spreading.

And Putin, once his troops have taken Kyiv, is unlikely to have 34,000 inhabitants marched out to a ravine and killed, as the Nazis did. Read up on Babi Yar. But the reports about Russian “kill lists” of important Ukrainians to be hunted are disturbing enough.

So is Putin as dangerous as Hitler? It’s a matter of perspective.

 

[llowry61]

I think we are all concerned and take this seriously; the problem is what can you do? Speculate sit by and watch it play out. That's it. I think China is watching very closely.

 

[Onomea]

Across Russia, thousands of Russians were in the streets today protesting against the war. Hundreds were arrested.*

To protest in Russia is a crime.

Those with the courage to do so are surely only the brave minority of those who are unhappy with this needless war.

*Edited to add: Over 1700 per reports from the next day, 2/25.

 

[Puller]

So the Ukrainians attacked Russia?

Unfortunately, we can’t debate it here. But I’m pretty sure we’re not getting an accurate view of what is really motivating the players.