The Russians have gone in

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Not when they help keep invaders from advancing.

I believe that was true a month or so ago.
It's not a month or so ago now. The balance of power has shifted to favor Ukraine, given their performance a few weeks ago.
Those rivers are in their way, and protecting the Russians.
 
I believe that was true a month or so ago.

It's not a month or so ago now. The balance of power has shifted to favor Ukraine, given their performance a few weeks ago.

Those rivers are in their way, and protecting the Russians.
With some new and improved capabilities, battlefield momentum is shifting and Russian forces are taking a beating, but Ukraine is still massively outnumbered and outgunned all along a 1000km front.

They are trying to acquire the numbers of APCs, IFVs, and MBTs needed to displace the Russians, but in the meantime the barrier provided by rivers are being used to get a tactical edge.

The Ukrainian state media outlet, Ukrinform, details numerous daily attacks and counterattacks, and today's stories include this one about Ukraine targeting it's own major bridges at river crossings.

"ISW: Ukraine's Armed Forces damage all three Russian-controlled bridges leading into Kherson city" ISW: Ukraine's Armed Forces damage all three Russian-controlled bridges leading into Kherson city

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I'd previously seen some stories about Ukrainians working abroad, chosing to leave their safety and employment to return and defend their homeland.
Somehow, I doubt Russians abroad are doing likewise.

"Exodus of Ukrainian workers hits Europe's emerging economies" Exodus of Ukrainian workers hits Europe's emerging economies

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Poland is learning from Ukraine's misery. While contributing their old Soviet era military hardware to Ukraine's fight against Russia, they negotiated for new equipment, in a deal announced today.

The agreement will see Warsaw purchase 980 tanks based on the South Korean K2 model, 648 self-propelled K9 armored howitzers, and 48 FA-50 fighter jets.

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German confirmed today the delivery to Ukraine of 3 additional PzH2000 self-propelled Howitzers and 3 MARS II MLRS Rocket Artillery Systems. The MARS II is an improved version of the US M270 MLRS.

Germany also confirmed today that an existing customer for it's new-production surface-to-air missile system, IRIS-T, has agreed to a delayed delivery, so that the newly built systems can be diverted to Ukraine.
Germany claims that once delivered in a few weeks, the IRIS-T systems will be the most advanced air defense assets in theatre.

In for a penny, in for a pound. Germany reversed it's previous stance and approved an export license for the purchase from the manufacturer of 100 new PzH2000 self-propelled Howitzers. Delivery not expected for more than a year.


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I hate to admit it but NATO and the US should have done something back in 2014. I guess they did they trained and organized the Ukraine army to a certain extent. I guess they had to prove to the world that they were serious about freedom before they could get the kind of help they're getting now. I guess that is also why it is taking so long to get them enough help to make a difference. Of course what do I know, only what I think...........
 
Ukraine has added new members to their long range rocket artillery family today. Three MARS II MLRS that Germans have now provided is a revised version of the M270.

All the required training of Ukrainian soldiers was already completed in Germany.

It was also announced that another 4 HIMARS systems arrived today.

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It's honestly fascinating to observe adaptation.
Russia seems to be looking to naval assets as a means to potentially meet the West augmented artillery of Ukraine.
 
The following is in no way an endorsement of the current Russian action.

Consider this:

If Mexico had applied to join the Warsaw Pact in the 60s or 70s, what would have been the reaction of the US? ;)
In essence Cuba makes an actual working example rather than Mexico as a theoretical one
 
Big difference when there is a land border involved. See WWII.

WW2 had a race to develop a nuclear weapon... ANY nuclear weapon.
By the Cuban missile crisis, not only did everyone involved have them, they had them in numbers with high yield warheads in guided missile systems that fairly well negated the land border argument.
 
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Can't find it now, but read a good story earlier about how Ukraine analyzed how poorly they had done initially, after the 2014 Russian attacks, and realized the Soviet doctrine of small-unit battle decisions being driven by the general staff wasn't working well for them.
They accepted USA offers to retrain it's military to western standards. This especially involved creating a newly empowered non-commissioned officer corp. It's largely this new phalanx of sergeants leading the fighting that is blunting Russia's advance.

On a different note, this slick upbeat short video from Ukraine I think shows the positive impact on morale brought about by the rocket artillery systems.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mdf0Vu0vH8[/ame]

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If this is true, the Russians look more like the Keystone Cops, rather than a crack army.

Hard to know what's true, but considering the Ukrainians apparent effectiveness at targeting arms depots with rocket artillery, especially at rail sidings, this event seems believable.

I imagine being the miserable Russian conscripts tasked with unloading train cars of explosive arms within range of "HIMARS", thinking a smoke screen might save their lives, and perhaps the obscuring action itself caused the mishap.





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Perhaps some day a movie can be
made about a fictional Russian
general trying to cope with his
own army.

It could star Paul Walter Hauser
("Richard Jewell" and "Cruella")
as the general.
 
If Russian troops were scattering before the explosion, you have to wonder if they knew what was going on in advance. Sabotage maybe? During World War ll, the Japanese battleship Mutsu was anchored quietly in a Japanese harbor when it blew itself to bits. The cause of the explosion has been debated ever since, but a known disgruntled sailor in the crew may have done it.

It could have been sloppy ammo handling. The U.S. Navy's Port Chicago ammunition depot in California blew up during World War ll. Extremely lax safety procedures led to a fire onboard a cargo ship being loaded with ammunition. Although the sailors scrambled away as best they could, the explosion was so large that 320 died and 390 were injured, and the base was all but destroyed. At Port Chicago, speed was everything, and safety was nothing. Maybe the Russian soldiers felt the same pressure ("Let's dump this stuff and get out of here before HIMARS hits"), with inevitable consequences.

Or maybe it was HIMARS. Can it target through a smokescreen?
 
gleaned this from the online news / battle map

Russian militaries shelled the Zaporizhzhia NPP for the second time in the last few hours: three hits were recorded on the site of the station. The nitrogen-oxygen station and the combined auxiliary building were damaged
 
Bad news for Putin....

WASHINGTON, Aug 5 (Reuters) - The Biden administration's next security assistance package for Ukraine is expected to be $1 billion, one of the largest so far, and include munitions for long-range weapons and armored medical transport vehicles, three sources briefed on the matter told Reuters on Friday.

The package is expected to be announced as early as Monday and would add to about $8.8 billion in aid the United States has given Ukraine since Russia's invasion on Feb. 24.


Exclusive: U.S. readies new $1 billion Ukraine weapons package | Reuters
 
Looks like Russia is letting Ukrainian grain to be exported through the Black Sea. Puti must have figured out that causing starvation in parts of the world would really look bad.
 
Bet these Russian generals are relieved to be relieved (instead of dead).

The poor performance of Russia's armed forces during its invasion of Ukraine appears to have led to a shakeup in command, the British Defense Ministry said Sunday.

Gen. Aleksandr Vladimirovich Dvornikov, who had been charged with overall command of the operation in Ukraine, was removed from his post last week, the ministry said. General-Colonel Aleksandr Zhuravlev, who had commanded Russia's Western Military District since 2018, was absent from Russia's Navy Day in St Petersburg a week ago and has likely been replaced, the ministry said in its assessment of the war.

Another general was relieved of command of Southern Grouping Forces, the ministry said.

"These dismissals are compounded by at least 10 Russian Generals killed on the battlefield in Ukraine," the assessment said. "The cumulative effect on consistency of command is likely contributing to Russian tactical and operational difficulties."


Ukraine live updates: 3 Russian generals sacked as military struggles
 
I'll park this link here.
It's a battle map sort of thing I've been tracking this with.
Ukraine Interactive map - Ukraine Latest news on live map - liveuamap.com

Key things I've been watching are the battle lines. Things have been quite stagnant in terms of turf changing hands. certainly not for lack of action.
Leadership changes seem to be reflected in a recent uptick in reports
 
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