This doesn't Sound Good For You Illinois Folk'ss

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Wow! How anyone can believe that releasing the names of FOID holders is a good idea is beyond me...
 
With Daley gone someone has to pull the sword from the 'guns are evil' stone and don the armor of the idiots. In the last couple of years two cities here in Indiana, had local papers publish lists of License to Carry Handgun Permits in their respective cities. The BS was eventually shot down. I can't remember if it was NRA intervention. Lisa Madigan's father is the guy that REALLY runs Illinois. Give him a call. Lisa will get left in the dust if she doesn't do something, as in anything.

http://www.housedem.state.il.us/members/madiganm/
 
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Each year here in Vermont we publish a book of people allowed to possess firearms and no-one has ever complained. By the way, it's more commonly called a phone book (Sorry but I couldn't resist that).
 
illinois.................doesn't pay its suppliers, several ex governors are or have been in prison, crumbling infrastructure everywhere, gang bangers own the chicago streets, higher taxes ...................and this is what is paramount on the governments list of "things to do"
 
This is certainly a serious issue. It's like putting a neon sign in front of your house. However, (hopefully) nothing will get released too quickly. Even the papers say that this could rattle around for a while. There are two bills (in state house and senate) that propose making the FOID records permenantly private unless there is a criminal investigation.

It would be easier if there were no FOID. Thank goodness I am retiring out of Illinois.

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All of you fellow Illinoisians, time to write your state officials and tell them to back the state senate and house bills that would make the FOID records permenantly private (unless they are a part of a criminal investigation).

Sen. Durbin is going to try to expedite the senate bill and has asked that the ISP not release any records until the bill makes it to a vote.
 
If posting my FOID card information can get my closer to legally carrying a gun in Illinois, so be it.
Why should it bother me if people know I have a FOID card?
 
(PRI) Peoples Republic of Illinois, What do you expect, President is out of the same system! Love to visit My brother in Kansas, hate to drive through the communist country!
 
(PRI) Peoples Republic of Illinois, What do you expect, President is out of the same system! Love to visit My brother in Kansas, hate to drive through the communist country!

It's so the have-not criminals can break in, steal the guns and sell them. Some call it "Spreading the wealth."
 
If posting my FOID card information can get my closer to legally carrying a gun in Illinois, so be it.
Why should it bother me if people know I have a FOID card?

Some thieves might come pay you or your home a visit, you might not be around when they come by, oh you'll find out when you get inside your home what your callers were searching for...
 
I don't have any money in my home.
All my belongings are insured, what happens happens.
Stop being so paranoid:rolleyes:
 
I'm not sure of the source here so don't jump on me. There's a comment I like about "telling crooks which homes DON'T have guns" as in a "SURE THING". In Indiana you have to have a permit to carry but not just to own a gun. In Illinois you need a Firearms card to legally own a gun. But I think you can bypass that law in Illinois if your a member of an organized gang, or other criminal enterprize.


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I don't have any money in my home.
All my belongings are insured, what happens happens.
Stop being so paranoid:rolleyes:

I don't know if it is being paranoid. You have to admit that this whole thing is a slippery slope. FOID names today, what will the next records be tomorrow?

I am insured too, and I have taken steps to keep my guns secure. But the idea that those measures may be compromised by releasing my name (Madigan says addresses and phone numbers would be withheld, but it doesn't take a genius to get address information) irks me a bit. And as far as stolen weapons being insured/replaced, I really dislike the idea of one of my guns, stolen out of my house, in the hands of a criminal putting innocent people and LEO at risk.

Just my 2-cents.
 
4473's are the largest gun owner data base in the country. Some choose to put their SS# on it. I don't. I've seen plenty of gun shop employees come and go. Some of them look like they could use some "extra cash". People readily hand over info via 4473's to people they've never seen at GS's. Lots of people have access to info. There are break ins around here when people attend funerals and that info is made known in Obits. The mail lady used to call me "the gun guy" because of all the unrequested catalogs I used to get.
 
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Start making a list of the politician's personal address and phone numbers, starting with Lisa Madigan's and let them know that they will get published also. This has worked in cases like Clevelend Ohio where the newspapers thought it was important to print the names and addresses of CCL holders in their paper but thenn screamed bloody murder when their own names and private address / phone numbers were made public.

I heard on the way to work this morning that even the State police think it's a bad idea and are suing to keep the list private.
 
We must remember that politicians are driven to serve the needs of their constituencies.

Burglars, home invasion robbers, and rapists have a real need to know which homes might contain firearms!

This just makes it much more apparent which constituencies are important to Illinois politicians.
 
4473's are the largest gun owner data base in the country. Some choose to put their SS# on it. I don't. I've seen plenty of gun shop employees come and go. Some of them look like they could use some "extra cash". People readily hand over info via 4473's to people they've never seen at GS's. Lots of people have access to info. There are break ins around here when people attend funerals and that info is made known in Obits. The mail lady used to call me "the gun guy" because of all the unrequested catalogs I used to get.

Holy Cra9 JcMack,
Talk about Paranoid, as a gun dealer I tell folks Not to put their SS# on the form, but really guy, those 4473 forms aren't any fun to look through & I highly doubt anybody but the ATF & the gun-store ever get a look at your valuable data...You wanna worry about something worry about what the Bankers are doing with your info, it isn't gonna make a gun dealer a dime, but the bank--They can do plenty with it.
 
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