pantannojack
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What is a Tisas Pistol? Am I the only one who don't know?
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Tisas is a Turkish manufacturer of handguns, rifles, and shotguns. I have one of their M 1911 clones and am very pleased with it.
Tisas is an arms manufacturer in Turkey. They're supposedly selling some really nice stuff for not a lot of money. Here's an example:
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CMP Tisas M1911A1 Pistol - Civilian Marksmanship Program
The CMP is pleased to announce our partnership with Tisas USA to provide this extraordinary CMP-branded, museum-grade replica of the M1911A1 to our many customers and competitors. This pistol will make a great companion piece to the surplus M1911A1 pistols sold by the CMP or just a great pistol...
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pantannojack
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In the 80's I had gone thru some junk 1911's, Auto Ordinance, Springfield, older GI. It was stated in a local gun shop that you could buy a Colt for 700$, then spend another 700$ just to get it to function. Blames were put on bullet shape, magazine followers, grip strength. Then I got a Kimber Custom from Yonkers. No more trouble ever again. I am vey suspicious of any more 1911's unless proved to work as intended. Has the world changed since then?
I've been very pleased with their 1911 clones. The Glock/Sig amalgamation 9mm that they produce isn't the style I prefer, but it's well made and reliable.
Yes, I think the world has chanced since then. I currently only own four 1911s after thinning the pack. I have had Colts, Springfield Armory, and even a Rock Island and they all worked flawlessly out of the box. Not long ago I gave my son my favorite 1911, from Springfield Armory back in the 80s, it is the only piece that I ever named. We called it "Old faithful" because of its reliable function.
I've been inside 3 of their 1911's - 2 GI clones and one that they call a "Duty". All of them needed a deep clean at first due to the cosmoline-like preservative that they're shipped with. All 3 got Wilson spring kits and some light smoothing of the trigger/sear/disconnector surfaces as they were put back together. Triggers came out at 4 to 4 1/2 lbs.
The extractors were set properly right out of the box, and the fitting of the slide to frame and the bushing to the barrel and slide were very good. All 3 are reliable with every magazine I have using 200 gr LSWC reloads. Feed ramps didn't need any work at all.
I'm both happy and sad to report that the Duty is equal in accuracy to my Clackamas and Yonkers Kimbers, and both GI clones are slightly more accurate.
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Yes, the 1911 world has changed a lot. The 1911s from Turkey and the Philippines are generally trouble free straight out of the box. Say thank you CNC machining.
I picked up a Tisas Stakeout (now discontinued) a while back after a good deal of back and forth with myself. In the end, the price I paid was peanuts and I probably should have bought two. There are a few Rock Islands, EAA polymers, and ATI's amongst my Colts. For the most part they are good enough pistols. This Tisas is the prettiest of the cheap bunch for sure, but I haven't had enough rounds through it yet to say that it is carry reliable. I've had a couple of failures to eject, and will likely replace it with a Wilson part before passing any more judgement. It appears well made, and I'm sure I can work out any issues with it. If you don't mind tinkering with a 1911 (or just like to for that matter) then I'd say pick one up. Tisas tends to always be adding and dropping models though, so if you see something you like at a good price don't wait too long. I wish I would have picked up one of the Aviators in 9mm before they were all gone.
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I have a friend with eight or nine Tisas and has nothing but good to say about them. Few make negative comments about these guns. I thought seriously about buying one in .45 but went with Colt instead. No regrets as anticipated even if I spent a lot more. Just prefer the originals and that's no slight on Tisas.
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I don't particularly like to tinker with new guns to get them to work so I too have not been a big 1911 fan through the years. My commander sized Tisas, though, has been Glock like reliable right out of the box. I gave it a thorough cleaning when I got it (like I would have any new firearm) and changed the grips, but otherwise it has been 100% reliable and plenty accurate with all manner of .45 ACP ammo.
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I'm waiting on a Tisas Tank Commander as we speak, I have read a lot of good things about them. I'm a Tanker and it will be fun i hope.
Well, that was 40 years ago... so yes, the world has changed.
CNC machining took 1911s from what you're talking about (and I remember it well) to trouble free right out of the box. My Tisas 1911s have better slide to frame fit, and better barrel lockup than my Colt's from the 1960s and 1990s do. The Tisas 1911s are also forged frames and slides and have no MIM parts.
Yes, we have electricity & computers now!
But seriously, there's generally two decent brands in what one could call the "affordable" level of 1911s. One is Tisas & Rock Island Armory. I own two RIA 10mm models, one a Commander & the other a 2011.
Springfield has done a better job on their entry level models. They used to use a two-piece bbl, which wasn't terribly accurate & may have led to some of the feeding issues they seemed to have. It seems that when they brought out the TRP model, the QC when up all across the line.
I actually got to meet the owner (one of them, a bro/sis thing) at the Knoxville GOA conference. I did not know, but they know have a US plant out in AZ or somewhere. The operations manager is a female former USMC GySgt, so I'm certain she makes the QC toe the line there.
Aside from the RIA 1911 line, I have no experience with their other models. I would think a RIA would make an excellent truck gun as well.
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