What? No coat hanger???
To keep or not to keep...
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sandiawest
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Just an fyi....My former gunsmith just stopped by with a box of ammo and another apology. So I got that going for me. Which is nice.
Funny thing is, all of a sudden I'm not mad anymore. Between deciding to sell the parts, the purchase of a new Gen 2, the ammo/apology, and the responses to this and some other threads....I'm just not angry now. Actually, I'm starting to see the humor. If that makes any sense.
Funny thing is, all of a sudden I'm not mad anymore. Between deciding to sell the parts, the purchase of a new Gen 2, the ammo/apology, and the responses to this and some other threads....I'm just not angry now. Actually, I'm starting to see the humor. If that makes any sense.
jakebrake
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guess this means I can't buy it on the cheap?
RGVshooter
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Hahahaha.... perfect example of "if it's not broke, don't fix it" gone wrong.... Nothing wrong with installing a Apex trigger but you should have taken it to someone that knew what they were doing...
Now, in all seriousness. You have a letter from S&W stating that they function checked the pistol and it was returned to you with a clean bill of health.... Keep that letter and it goes with the gun when you sell it. They checked it out and they certified that it is safe. That letter is all you need to put any potential buyers mind at ease.
Now, in all seriousness. You have a letter from S&W stating that they function checked the pistol and it was returned to you with a clean bill of health.... Keep that letter and it goes with the gun when you sell it. They checked it out and they certified that it is safe. That letter is all you need to put any potential buyers mind at ease.
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sandiawest
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It's actually been a learning experience. Sure I rebuilt the brakes on the Jeep, I overhauled the carb on a buddy's 79 Chevy truck, I've designed and built tech from home automation to security to a rock'n streaming server. That said, I just had a nagging feeling that I'd best leave a trigger swap up to someone with actual experience. Steve had done an Apex trigger on his pistol as well as two others without apparent issue BUT....he's not a gunsmith. Sure he botched it but ultimately it's on me. I recognized I might be out if my depth and I powered right past googling a local gunsmith and handed it to someone who was only superficially qualified.
I plan to have the trigger and sights swapped on my 9c and 2.0, only this time I'll be taking it to the gunsmith who has both the positive reviews and didn't tell me I'd been a schmuck. After sitting on it for 4 months it's best to move on.
With the sign-off from S&W the look on the gunsmith's face that told me that keeping and shooting it was a 50/50 proposition, I've opted to see the parts off to a good home and scrap the frame. It's an object lesson not lost on my sons, knowing your limitations is fine but you should then know who you're dealing with when looking for help.
But hey, it's been replaced and I've learned my way around the forum now so it's not been a total loss. And as RSVshooter already said, "If it ain't broke don't fix it".
I plan to have the trigger and sights swapped on my 9c and 2.0, only this time I'll be taking it to the gunsmith who has both the positive reviews and didn't tell me I'd been a schmuck. After sitting on it for 4 months it's best to move on.
With the sign-off from S&W the look on the gunsmith's face that told me that keeping and shooting it was a 50/50 proposition, I've opted to see the parts off to a good home and scrap the frame. It's an object lesson not lost on my sons, knowing your limitations is fine but you should then know who you're dealing with when looking for help.
But hey, it's been replaced and I've learned my way around the forum now so it's not been a total loss. And as RSVshooter already said, "If it ain't broke don't fix it".
RGVshooter
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The frame is the part that is serialized. I would assume that you destroyed it to the point that it cannot be built into a functioning weapon?
Rastoff
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I guess I moved too slow.
NCW Ray
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Post up a pic of what the DremelSmith did too it.
Joe Reeser
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You don't trust the firearm after it was accidentally mucked up and I get that. Parting it out and destroying the receiver is probably your best option in that case. There are two things I don't understand, however:
1) I'm not sure what the point of sending it in to S&W was if you were going to ignore what they had to say about it and;
2) How is it S&W is not "a real gunsmith?"
1) I'm not sure what the point of sending it in to S&W was if you were going to ignore what they had to say about it and;
2) How is it S&W is not "a real gunsmith?"
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sandiawest
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Definitely destroying the frame, just not worth it to rehabilitate once material is removed.
@Joe Reeser...The real gunsmith remark was aimed squarely at the guy who went all dremelly on my firearm. The folks at S&W 1st rate when I sent it in and on the only other occasion I had to send one in for repair (cosmetic only) they were not only helpful but gave me a quick turn around, I've nothing but good things to say about them.
My big problem is that with material having been removed I simply couldn't bring myself to trust the pistol ever again and with a replacement in hand I couldn't see the point in pressing my luck. Paranoia maybe but there it is. The idea of selling it came to mind, but (legal ramifications aside) I didn't want to be party to someone else getting hurt.
With three M&Ps and a 642 Airweight in the safe they've my respect and repeat business. At least up to the point my wife threatens divorce.
@Joe Reeser...The real gunsmith remark was aimed squarely at the guy who went all dremelly on my firearm. The folks at S&W 1st rate when I sent it in and on the only other occasion I had to send one in for repair (cosmetic only) they were not only helpful but gave me a quick turn around, I've nothing but good things to say about them.
My big problem is that with material having been removed I simply couldn't bring myself to trust the pistol ever again and with a replacement in hand I couldn't see the point in pressing my luck. Paranoia maybe but there it is. The idea of selling it came to mind, but (legal ramifications aside) I didn't want to be party to someone else getting hurt.
With three M&Ps and a 642 Airweight in the safe they've my respect and repeat business. At least up to the point my wife threatens divorce.
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sandiawest
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@NCW Ray....Behold in all its splendor
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BigDog48
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This thread makes me sad that somewhere someone is saving for a Shield, and your “friend”....well never mind
Walt Sherrill
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I'll ask again.... Can you get a replacement frame from S&W (without the stuff that's still usable from your existing gun)? A bare frame ought not be terribly expensive.
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sandiawest
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A new frame was my first thought. I contacted S&W but they confirmed what I already suspected, they couldn't provide for a replacement frame. I went on line looking for someone who might have one for sale but no luck. As the frame is considered "the firearm" it was an uphill battle.
After calming down enough so that I didn't just wail on Sean, not that I had a chance since he took a few days off after the scene in the break room (now referred to as "The Bloody Nutty Buddy Bar Incident") and after he forked out the cash for a replacement, I spent a few weeks chasing down leads on a new frame while S&W (to their credit they had me send it in so they could look it over) had it. In the end, a new frame wasn't gonna happen.
The kicker is this was my first brand new "premium" pistol, I'd spent years unable to afford one and when I got it I spent an entire weekend at the range and down on a river bed. Just thinking about it p@#*& me off all over again, for a few bucks more I could have had the guys at the range replace the trigger so it's all on me. A hard pill to swallow, but funny thing is since I dug it out Friday and made the call to sell the parts I'm feeling somewhat better.
Think I'll have the damaged section cut out so I can take it to work and set it on my desk. There's at least one person who will never do another "walk-by" ever again.
After calming down enough so that I didn't just wail on Sean, not that I had a chance since he took a few days off after the scene in the break room (now referred to as "The Bloody Nutty Buddy Bar Incident") and after he forked out the cash for a replacement, I spent a few weeks chasing down leads on a new frame while S&W (to their credit they had me send it in so they could look it over) had it. In the end, a new frame wasn't gonna happen.
The kicker is this was my first brand new "premium" pistol, I'd spent years unable to afford one and when I got it I spent an entire weekend at the range and down on a river bed. Just thinking about it p@#*& me off all over again, for a few bucks more I could have had the guys at the range replace the trigger so it's all on me. A hard pill to swallow, but funny thing is since I dug it out Friday and made the call to sell the parts I'm feeling somewhat better.
Think I'll have the damaged section cut out so I can take it to work and set it on my desk. There's at least one person who will never do another "walk-by" ever again.
NCW Ray
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If you attached a pic...it isn't showing.@NCW Ray....Behold in all its splendor
Holy mackerel, and I thought I was a hack!
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sandiawest
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Mmmmmm...How 'bout:
That's too bad. I've heard Glock offer to replace frames for varying costs, as well as seen Glock frames available. Was hoping S&W had similar offerings, but sounds like not.
Sounds like the person who messed it up, made it right by you (replacement with the newer model and some ammo for your trouble), and once you part it out, you may even make a few additional $.
gwpercle
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Next time you need a gunsmith try Clark Custom Guns , nothing but 100% total satisfaction on all the work they have done for me.
I have found their prices real reasonable .
I would call them up and see if they could "fix" your problem!
Never mind calling ....the photo's show bubba got this one good, I don't think duct tape or Clark's can fix this ....Wow !
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NCW Ray
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Wow, that's some nasty DremelSmithing right there, I'd dispose of it too!
