Transporting across California, Oregon & Illinois

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Hi All,

In a couple of weeks, I'll be making a trip that will take me across the above states that do not recognize my Ohio CCL. I've read what I can find on their websites and plan on putting the vendor supplied lock on my 642 inside a locking box tethered under the back seat of my truck. The ammunition will be stored separately.

I'll be driving the entire length of California and just enter Oregon. Not sure about Illinois, depends on how we return to Ohio. Am I missing anything and do you have any additional recommendations? I don't want any problems while on vacation.
 
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Sounds like the way to store them. But.. I am not a law enforcement official from these states.

The actual laws can be viewed online with some research.
 
In Illinois, the law is :
There is another separate law for Non-Residents
A non-resident may transport a loaded concealed handgun in a vehicle if they have a valid CCW permit in their home state. They cannot under any circumstances remove the firearm from the vehicle. If they need to exit the vehicle they must lock it or place the firearm in a locked container.

The Law
430 ILCS 66/40
 
These laws are such a joke. Do you think your average violent criminal is going online to check and see the proper way to transport a firearm?

Or do you think the state wishes to consider those who do not abide by these laws "violent criminals?"
 
These laws are such a joke. Do you think your average violent criminal is going online to check and see the proper way to transport a firearm?

Or do you think the state wishes to consider those who do not abide by these laws "violent criminals?"

If the laws governing what someone without a CCL needs to do are a joke, then CCLs are a joke.

Laws generally only prevent illegal behavior by offering a penalty if you are caught - which works pretty well for people that aren't willing to go to prison in the first place.


Laws do not prevent suicidal people (for instance) from doing anything as they have nothing to lose.
 
In Oregon, the above precautions you propose work. Unfortunately, we do not recognize any other states CCL while 11 other states recognize ours (but none that border us).
 
One word of caution - in the event that you are stopped by a police officer do not volunteer the existence of the secured weapon. If asked do not lie. If you are not asked do not bring it up.
This is good advice, unless that particular state has a mandatory declaration requirement; CA does not.

In CA the gun must be unloaded and locked in a container that completely encloses the gun and is locked with a key or combination lock. The ammo does NOT need to be separate from the gun, but for the gun to be unloaded, there must be no round in the chamber and no ammo in the magazine. You can have a loaded magazine in the same box, it just can't be inserted into the gun.

What the OP described is overkill for CA, but will be a legal form of transport.

I should also note that it is legal to have your gun in any temporary dwelling. This includes hotels, motels, tents, friend's house, etc.
 
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EEK! I feel your pain!

One word of caution - in the event that you are stopped by a police officer do not volunteer the existence of the secured weapon. If asked do not lie. If you are not asked do not bring it up.

This is good advice for Illinois. Illinois law does not require the CCL holder reveal to the LEO that they're carrying a gun or even that there's a gun in the vehicle.
 
These laws are such a joke. Do you think your average violent criminal is going online to check and see the proper way to transport a firearm?

Or do you think the state wishes to consider those who do not abide by these laws "violent criminals?"

Drop into the District of Columbia, leave a single spent 22 case in the vehicle and see what happens if they find it.
 
Have a look at handgunlaw.us, they have current information and one of the principals is on the Forum regularly with updates. Safe travels and watch out for L.A. rush hour, now expanded to 24 daily :(.
 
This is good advice for Illinois. Illinois law does not require the CCL holder reveal to the LEO that they're carrying a gun or even that there's a gun in the vehicle.
Not completely accurate.
In IL one does not have to immediately declare they are armed but if asked they are required to notify if they are armed and where the firearm is located. During a traffic stop this applies not only to the driver but to all occupants of the vehicle. This applies whether asked by the police or by any emergency services personnel.
430 ILCS 66/10(h)
If an officer of a law enforcement agency initiates an investigative stop, including but not limited to a traffic stop, of a licensee or a non-resident carrying a concealed firearm under subsection (e) of Section 40 of this Act, upon the request of the officer the licensee or non-resident shall disclose to the officer that he or she is in possession of a concealed firearm under this Act, or present the license upon the request of the officer if he or she is a licensee or present upon the request of the officer evidence under paragraph (2) of subsection (e) of Section 40 of this Act that he or she is a non-resident qualified to carry under that subsection. The disclosure requirement under this subsection (h) is satisfied if the licensee presents his or her license to the officer or the non-resident presents to the officer evidence under paragraph (2) of subsection (e) of Section 40 of this Act that he or she is qualified to carry under that subsection. Upon the request of the officer, the licensee or non-resident shall also identify the location of the concealed firearm and permit the officer to safely secure the firearm for the duration of the investigative stop. During a traffic stop, any passenger within the vehicle who is a licensee or a non-resident carrying under subsection (e) of Section 40 of this Act must comply with the requirements of this subsection (h).
 
I have a couple of rental properties in Evansville, Indiana - it's a 19 hour drive (or so) from Denver across I-70. Westbound, you can stop at a rest area and do what you need to do to be legal, then once you get out of Illinois, you can do the same. A couple of years ago, the Eastbound side rest area before entering Illinois was closed. Be aware of that possibility.

Being from Colorado, with Colorado plates, the police automatically assume that the driver is transporting pot. I know this, I know I'm going to get pulled over. It's cool - I don't smoke pot and I have no problem being transparent.

I was pulled over on the way home on I-70 not too far outside of Ferguson, MO for "following too close". I was in the fast lane, there was a Black Ford Bronco unmarked car in the median. Folks were hitting their brakes as they passed him - I took my foot off the pedal (I was in a F-350 Quad Cab). I had both dogs in the car - I shut the truck off, opened the back window, opened the front windows (it's a 4 door truck) to let the officer know I was friendly. I also have the habit of pulling the keys out of the ignition and putting them on the dash when I get pulled over. Dogs starting going nuts (I have a blue heeler that thinks the truck is his) - he lunged at the window in the back and actually popped the top part of it out of the track so I asked the officer if I could step out and he agreed. I took my keys, put them in my front pocket, and I met the officer at the back of the truck - he chewed me out for "following too close". He asked me for my license. I pulled out the license and my CCW handed them to him, and told him there were two loaded concealed weapons in the truck. He chewed me out again for "following too close". I had two job site boxes in the back of the truck (orange Ridgid boxes). He asked what I was doing. I explained I had two rental properties in Evansville and I had spent the week out there, I was on the way back. He chewed me out again for "following too close"...then he said "where were you hunting". I explained to him that I wasn't hunting, was in Evansville working on the rental houses and the orange job site boxes had my tools in them (which they did). He said "That's a lot of tools". I pulled my keys out of my pocket and offered them to him and said "you are more than welcome to take a look". Then he chewed me out for the window being out of track and "about to fall out". I walked to the other side of the truck to take a look, looked at the window, turned back toward the officer, and he and his partner had left.

Window was fine - rolled it down, it popped back into track, then rolled it back up.

Nothing like a good ole fashioned shakedown LOL.
 
Thank You

Like the title says; Thank You to all that replied. I will be better prepared should I get stopped or otherwise have to respond during vacation. I'm very happy that most of the states I'll be going through honor my CCW.

I've looked at the different state laws & appreciate the additional links & information.

Ohio honors all state CCW's while several do not honor Ohio's. It is something that I don't understand, yet there are many illogical things that I don't understand and have to live with. I no longer go to or through some places, including Chicago, a city I love, because too many areas have become war zones.
 
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Not completely accurate.
In IL one does not have to immediately declare they are armed but if asked they are required to notify if they are armed and where the firearm is located.

That's true, but I never said it wasn't true. You do not need to volunteer that you're carrying. But if asked, of course you should answer truthfully. That's true for any question the LEO asks.
 
"Ohio honors all state CCW's while several do not honor Ohio's. It is something that I don't understand, yet there are many illogical things that I don't understand and have to live with."

There was a recent thread here on state laws about magazine capacity and why the magic number for some was 10 when standard capacity for many popular models is 17. My comment was such laws are a good indication of where you might not want to live and the same answer applies here. Choose wisely. :)
 
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