Travelling Through CT And Have A Firearm Transport Question

[BruceHMX]

Hi All;

I am going through CT on vacation this month. I'm taking a couple 22 long guns up. They will be in a hard case locked with no ammo. Couple questions that hopefully some one in CT can answer. I want to take my son to the sub base museum at Groton. Is the museum actually on the sub base? Are vehicles searched if entering the museum?

Any laws prohibiting me from just taking the gun case out and locking it in my motel room?

Thanks

 

[OKFC05]

Between VA and CT lie MD, NJ, and NY, which also have some laws about carrying a gun in your car while driving around, particularly NY City.

Ch 529 and 943

http://www.cga.ct.gov/2005/pub/titles.htm

There is a problem with your delivering or transferring a firearm within the state:

Sec. 29-38d. Interstate transportation of firearms through state. (a) The provisions of sections 29-35 and 29-38 shall not apply to the interstate transportation of firearms through this state in accordance with 18 USC 926A and 927, as amended from time to time, by any person who is not otherwise prohibited from shipping, transporting, receiving or possessing a firearm. Such person may transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where such person may lawfully possess and carry such firearm through this state to any other place where such person may lawfully possess and carry such firearm provided such transportation is in accordance with subsection (b) of this section.



(b) During the transportation of a firearm through this state as authorized in subsection (a) of this section, such firearm shall be unloaded and neither such firearm nor any ammunition being transported shall be readily accessible or directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle. If the vehicle does not have a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, such firearm shall be unloaded and such firearm and any ammunition being transported shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.



(c) No person who is transporting a firearm through this state in accordance with this section may use or carry such firearm or sell, deliver or otherwise transfer such firearm while in this state.

 

[BruceHMX]

Hey thanks guys;

Guess know one lives in CT or has ever been to Groton. I thought I asked a very simple question.

 

[Amici]

Guess know [sic] one lives in CT or has ever been to Groton. I thought I asked a very simple question.

It appeared simple to you because you clearly do not understand the laws involved. One cannot lawfully just toss a gun in a car and go on vacation.

First, you were PROVIDED the CT law. So much for your assertion that "know [sic] one lives in CT or has ever been to Groton."

Second, interstate transport under FEDERAL law requires that the one transporting the firearm:

1. LAWFULLY possess the gun in the state the trip originates in;

2. Be LAWFULLY in possession when arriving at the destination; and

3. Travel directly between the two.

Note further that, if you intend to convey possession to a party in another state, an FFL is required.

The warnings about NY and NJ are not wholly devoid of merit; however, Federal law trumps state law. Period.

Arrogant JBT's in both those states have presumed otherwise, and lost soundly when those whose property was unlawfully seized went after the JBT's in court.

The sub museum is, IIRC, on the base; however, I have not been there since '89. I am sure its protocols changed after 9/11, just as they did at West Point (and every other base and academy, I'd bet).

 

[BruceHMX]

Never mind. Just asked a simple question. Been on this forum a long time. Not selling anything. My son and I are going to Maine. Taking along his Remington Model 5 and another 22. Guess we should just stay at home in VA.

I thought I already explained the guns would be in a locked hard case with no ammo. We are not driving through NYC.

It's very simple. Checking out a few spots between which do not include NYC, Philly or Boston.

But **** it's only America right!!

Lastly I'll just call them in the am. Thought a few S&W brothers on here would know the deal.

Not just throwing guns in the car and heading out either. Get a breath there guy.

 

[morsecode]

I live in CT, though I initially hesitated to reply because I don't know what if any the extra requirements might be for an interstate traveller. I know that as a resident, I'm supposed to have the long guns in a locked case as far away from the locked down ammo as the vehicle allows. And I have a carry permit here, to boot.

Now I have driven to Vermont on occasion and followed that same formula. Of course, I was never pulled over so my method has gone unchallenged.

 

[Amici]

It's very simple. Checking out a few spots between which do not include NYC, Philly or Boston. ...

Not just throwing guns in the car and heading out either. Get a breath there guy.

1. You did not specify a destination; only that you wanted to visit Groton; and

2. Your question indicated a total lack of knowledge of FOPA, the key to your proposed trip.

I am going through CT on vacation this month. I'm taking a couple 22 long guns up.

Clearly an interstate trip; clearly one which requires knowledge of FOPA's requirements. See above.

Sorry for attempting to help by introducing you to reality.

 

[bk43]

Here's the federal law which is all you need to know:

§ 926A. Interstate transportation of firearms

Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver's compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.

There is nothing prohibiting stops to rest, eat, gas up or whatever. However, I have heard of several cases, most in NJ and NY, where people have been hassled because the locals think their stricter local law applies. It doesn't in the end but you're going to be out the time and whatever it costs to sort things out.

Bob

 

[BruceHMX]

Thanks Bob.

 

[Kevin G]

BruceHMX,
Sorry you're getting such a run around trying to figure if you can bring a couple of .22's up here. Where will you be staying? Are you familiar w/the area?
Seems like a clear answer to the question about your situation would be just as easy to provide as the superior attitude crap I see.
Kevin

 

[BruceHMX]

Thanks Kevin;

I'm headed to Buxton. Yes been there several times. Usually take the train to Boston then get a rental car. Since my son and I want to see some sites on the way up decided to drive. Going to do some plinking at some of your sand pits. I got the answer a few min's ago from the sub base museum.

It's "NOT" on the base. Therefore car's are not searched when entering.

I called the local PD in Groton and was told as long as the guns are unloaded and in a case it would not be a problem either having them in the trunk or storing them in the motel room.

 

[Kevin G]

Bruce,
A lot of subs were built at the Kittery-Portsmouth Shipyard, still does overhauls. Last I knew there was a small museum right off 95 just south of the Kittery Trading Post, a must see, lots of firearms and then some.
I suggest you check w/Buxton PD (207-929-6612) about sand-pit shooting if you don't have permission. The area may be a bit more "civilized" than when you visited last.
When do you expect to be up here?
Kevin

 

[BruceHMX]

Oh yeah always stop off at the Kittery Trading Post. It's a private pit so no problem on the law side. Coming up the week of the 20th. Hooking up with the Perez klan. Should be a good time. Shoot me a way to get in touch with you via PM. Maybe we can link up for shooting, few drinks or something.

 

[Amici]

Second the motion for visiting the museum at Kittery. Be sure to see the "sail" from the recovered sub Squalus. It was refitted as, IIRC, Sailfish and fought in WW II. That is on the Portsmouth base itself.

 

[conn ak]

Don't forget to check the WW2 sub memorial off Rt 12, in Gales Ferry, CT. We lost a ton of submarines in WW2 and there is a "head stone" for each of them. Amazing that some of the subs, once captured by the Japanese, suffered beheading and/or other forms of immediate death. I live in Connecticut-it's rare for a police officer to search a trunk, absent probable cause, even then a locked and unloaded .22 wouldn't bring out the swat team. Have fun, Brother.

 

[Amici]

Don't forget to check the WW2 sub memorial off Rt 12, in Gales Ferry, CT. We lost a ton of submarines in WW2 and there is a "head stone" for each of them.

There is a similar park in Portsmouth, NH; just before you cross the river. There is a research sub on hardstands there, as well as a memorial park for lost submariners.

I believe the preferred term is "On eternal patrol."