Wagner Group Mutiny

[DWalt]

Just saw a news report that the Russian Wagner mercenary group in Ukraine has revolted against the Russians. Allegedly because of rocket attack against them by the Russians that killed some Wagners. I don't know much about the Wagner Group, except I have read it is sort of a "Dirty Dozen" operation which recruits out of Russian prisons and wants only certifiable psychopaths.

 

[Peak53]

I'll be careful about what I read into this. Both sides seem to be using disinformation for their own, and perhaps mutual, advantage. What it is not is an armed insurrection against the Russian government.

 

[Onomea]

While the generals are claiming it is an armed insurrection, a coup, that to me, too, seems unlikely. But the Russian government is worried enough to have ordered armored vehicles onto the streets of Moscow.

 

[The Last Standing Knight]

Like every war ever fought, there are so many lies and disinformation from all sides and everyone else to make me believe at this point that NONE of it is remotely credible.

This does remind me of the Brush Wars of southern Africa in the 70's-80's...everyone hired mercenaries and the mercenaries turned on them. Everyone was fighting everybody else.

My outlook? Leave war to the professionals or even better yet DON'T HAVE WAR AT ALL!

 

[Rudi]

The Russians are masters of Maskirovka. I believe very little "news" about this war. It needs to end, before idiots get us further in to it.

 

[NYlakesider]

The Russians are masters of Maskirovka.

I believe very little "news" about this war. It needs to end, before idiots get us further in to it.

This war? Mostly BS from all sides in any war is the norm!

 

[pharmer]

.... Mostly BS from all sides in any war is the norm!

Add $200 BILLION of US taxpayer' money to the mix and it gets uglier. Dictators always get their way for awhile but long term survival is a "historical anomaly." Joe

 

[Walkin Horse]

Imagine that. Bad guys turning on bad guys. That's been happening for a long time. Now will we spend more to defend Russia?

 

[swsig]

Putin's False Flag

Knowing Putin is the cynical manipulating psychopath that he is, here's my take on the "mutiny":

1. Because he's in deep trouble at home and abroad, he gets his buddy Prigozhin and the Wagner Group to stage a fake "rebellion".

2. As the Wagner Group slowly "moves" on Moscow, Putin declares that he will need the entire Russian army to defend it.

3. Accordingly, he pulls all his troops out of the Ukraine in order to mass them in the defense of Moscow. This gives him a plausible face-saving move to end his disastrous Ukraine invasion.

4. Once the Russian troops are in place around Moscow, last-minute "negotiations" between Putin and Prigozhin are successful, and the two kiss and make up.

5. Free of Russian troops, Ukraine can return to normal, the western powers lift sanctions, the Russian economy improves, and Russians regard Putin as a "hero" for preventing a civil war and restoring the economy.

6. Now popular again, Putin returns to his position of unchallenged authority.

7. Prighozin falls to his death from a window of a swanky high rise hotel.

Putin-Think at its finest!

 

[Truckman]

8. The remaining Wagner mercenaries simultaneously become the victims of accidentally poisoned vodka at the state dinner celebrating the return to normalcy......Ben

 

[Rudi]

Puti's Victory Day Parade back in May was the smallest ever.

 

[pharmer]

9). Party time in Kyiv, got to be some of that $200 Billion US taxpayer money laying around. Them Ukrainian women hot, my phone blows up daily with offers to meet 'em. Joe

 

[martyd]

I have finally reached my saturation point with Russia/Ukraine being called a war.

This is not a serious war, it is a stupid conflict.

If Russia was serious about taking Ukraine, it would be over with in 1 hour. All they would have to do is loaded up their Tu-95s and unload on Ukraine.

However, what I have learned from this is Russia is not the threat we thought they were.

Their army and weaponry is for show.

They did not have an army which could pull of the conquering of a much smaller country. They had to hire a private army; the Wagner Group.

They do not have weapons like we thought they had. Russia is borrowing/buying weapons from small countries like Iran.

The only thing that makes them a power is they have Nukes, nothing else.

 

[pawngal]

This whole deal sounds like a lot of "posturing" to me.
Latest I just read, it's all over for now.
Next chapter?

 

[Onomea]

On behalf of our absent comrade BWZ, and my own sentiments as well: Slava Ukraini!

 

[invisibleflash]

Just saw a news report that the Russian Wagner mercenary group in Ukraine has revolted against the Russians. Allegedly because of rocket attack against them by the Russians that killed some Wagners. I don't know much about the Wagner Group, except I have read it is sort of a "Dirty Dozen" operation which recruits out of Russian prisons and wants only certifiable psychopaths.

They are doing a bang-up job at heading towards Moscow.

 

[pharmer]

Da-Deet-Deet-Deet: This just in: Commander will go to Belarus to live off some of that $200BILLION US taxpayer dollars. OK, read it for yourself. Joe
Wagner chief orders troops to turn around from Moscow '''to avoid bloodshed''' | Live Updates from Fox News Digital

 

[WR Moore]

Given that Belarus is a client state of Russia, he might want to move further. OTOH, I doubt Belarus would hand him over to any international tribunal..........unless Vlad "asks" them to.

 

[venomballistics]

Prigozhin seems to have already folded
That's a bit quick for a game of chess

 

[BSA1]

Prigozhin seems to have already folded
That's a bit quick for a game of chess

He would do well to avoid room and office windows higher than ground level.