I'd want to see a cite on that one.
What about those Armored Car Guys?
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I'd want to see a cite on that one.
Wolf1775
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Small potatoes. In 2012 a Garda truck was robbed in Pittsburgh, and over $2 million was taken. The messed up part is that the guy who robbed it worked for the company. He shot his partner in the back of the head and ran. FBI found him in Florida.
mc5aw
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I'm not getting killed over someone else's money if can I help it, and I sure wouldn't be armed with anything less than a 12 gauge pump gun w < 14" barrel if I did work a truck route. I give the drivers and bag men a great deal of credit.
Aren't the $ satchels fitted with dye poppers?
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We're talking 40-50 years ago minimum. Maybe in a history of Wells-Fargo? I believe I may have got that from an FBI guy back then.
I could see it in the 19th century but I can't imagine it would fly much past the mid 20th
OFT II
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In the 1920s the Texas Bankers Association offered a reward of dead bank robbers. Check it out.
Texas Co-op Power Magazine - Texas Stories: The Dead Bank Robber Bounty - An Online Community for Members of Texas Electric Cooperatives
Wolf1775
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It all depends on the company. Some might, some might not. For large deliveries we may actually put the cash in a locking bag. Some companies may authorize shotguns for large deliveries too.
If we didn't have to shoot to deescalate a situation the we didn't shoot. The money is insured and the Feds will get involved. It seems that most who have attempted to rob armored cars initiated the robbery with force and the threat of death or serious injury, so things get limited in how to respond then. Either meet force with force or surrender and pray.
Interesting note, my company instructed drivers to immediately leave the scene if things went sideways since the truck is likely the target and not the hopper. The theory is that hopper has a better chance of surviving a robbery if the main payoff leaves. None of us liked the idea of ditching our partners, though the partners I worked with specifically told me to bail and not look back if things got violent. Considering two of my partners were retired military and one retired cop that's not a light thing for them to say.
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Wells Fargo had a large poster in their facility that I personally saw when I was a detective investigating an armored car robbery. It offered a reward to their guards/couriers. I seem to remember it was for either $1000.00 or $1500.00 to knock em' down. That's a fact. It was a sizeable poster, you couldn't miss it. It was in the office area where the branch manager (former FBI SAIC) conducted business. And it wasn't 50 years ago either. Those guys carry handguns, and shotguns in the trucks with firing portholes. Why does anyone wonder why, think they're for show?
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It's not a question of thinking the weapons are for show, although since we've had armored car guards in this thread state that company policy is to surrender the cash that kinda makes me think to a degree the weapons are for show.
I'm thinking more of the hassles this could cause with their insurer or liability issues when the robber's family sues the company over the policy claiming the prospect of the bonus enticed the guard to "gun down" the robber unnecessarily just to get the reward. I could see this bonus costing the company far more money than it saves them.
Bottom line a stated company policy of surrendering the cash doesn't match a bonus for dropping the person trying to steal the cash. The dichotomy doesn't work for me
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The statistic of *7* is misleading. There is a very narrow definition for an Armored Car robbery to consist of "Bank Robbery" . The rest are * theft from interstate commerece * and/ or generic armed robbery.
Not naming names , but the Bonous was not for the shooting of bad guys ( nor for taking a bullet yourself) . The Bonus was for either preventing a loss , or providing information leading to yada , yada . In the '70s was $500 , in '90s was $1000 .
Not naming names , but the Bonous was not for the shooting of bad guys ( nor for taking a bullet yourself) . The Bonus was for either preventing a loss , or providing information leading to yada , yada . In the '70s was $500 , in '90s was $1000 .
Now that makes perfect sense
We just had an attempt during Christmas season. Guy was a career criminal & had a bullet proof vest on & had more strapped around his arms & legs, LA North Hollywood style. Guard walked out of Walmart w/ the money & guy ran up & sprayed CS in the guards face. Guard was able to draw & fire 4-5 shots hitting BG in his vests a couple times but also in the upper chest, arm & thigh where the vests didn't cover him. BG tried to run away but an off duty officer & a CCW holder chased him down. He died a week or so later.
http://www.wthr.com/story/24284787/2013/12/22/suspect-shot-in-attempted-robbery-of-armored-truck
Here's a video where they tried to take the guards gun but couldn't & then turned their back on him & payed for it.
Armored Car Shooting in Florida.wmv - YouTube
http://www.wthr.com/story/24284787/2013/12/22/suspect-shot-in-attempted-robbery-of-armored-truck
Here's a video where they tried to take the guards gun but couldn't & then turned their back on him & payed for it.
Armored Car Shooting in Florida.wmv - YouTube
sac-gunslinger
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Are you suggesting that you should have robbed armored cars instead of robbing banks?
Sorry, couldn't resist....
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Do you know if the guard in the video faced any charges? Many would argue that he was no longer in danger when he took the shots.
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He wouldn't have to still be in danger. The robbers were still a threat to anyone they came into contact with, after demonstrating a willingness to use deadly force to commit their crime.
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