Really who still has a snub nosed revolver? LOL!!! Get a real gun grandpa!

[michaelt]

Ive owned this one many years

1973S&W model 49 Bodyguard ( A real bodyguard)

 

[michaelt]

Then again I can always go up or down from their

 

[dandyrandy]

Some very good points here about the old snuba dub dub.. Things I didnt even realize about the little gun that could. It makes me appreciate the small frame revolver even more. The biggest shortcoming of the little guy is its small capacity of bullets. Anything less and its pretty much a derringer. The snub nose revolver is pretty much just a bug out gun. Its designed mostly to get people out of sticky situations nothing more nothing less. Its not really an offensive weapon just a quick defense tool.

 

[Motorcop]

Thats very interesting and good point. I never believed in long range pistol shooting thats what a long gun is for. If you think about it ALL pistols are just mini little tiny short barrel rifles.

I would go so far as to say with in 7'

 

[Mister X]

Its not really an offensive weapon just a quick defense tool.

And that's precisely what so many fail to see. They look to what military and law enforcement use and make the assumption that it must be the best choice and imitate them. The problem is military and law enforcement is largely offensive/proactive whereas civilian self-defense is defensive/reactive. That fact makes a huge difference in determining effective weapons, the best techniques and suitable tactics.

 

[Model 15-4ever]

Not trying to be preachy or anything here, but your wife shouldn't be shooting when she is pregnant. The report of the gun can damage your baby's hearing inutero.

The actual answer is unknown. Medical opinions and advice vary.

There are no definitive studies on this topic. In studies that have been conducted of pregnant women, high level steady state noise has had observable effects on fetus behavior. However, the effect on hearing is not measurable. Most studies of hearing effects on the fetus hearing structures are based on non-human studies, and their reliabilty as to humans is unknown and/or questionable.

OSHA [u[guidelines[/u] for pregnant women are 80dB steady state sound level, and 120 dB impulse level. While the steady state guidance has some basis in studies of fetus behavior, the impulse level is based on conjecture.

While CF pistol gunfire at the muzzle usually exceeds 120 dB, that is not the definitive answer. The distance of the fetus from the point of discharge, and the direction of the sound downrange, significantly affect the actual dB level sustained at the point of measurement. In addition, the sound insulation provided by the amniotic fluid is a factor in reducing the dB level inside the womb. Finally, the effect of sound on the actual hearing structures of the developing fetus are unknown.

Exposure to lead and other noxious chemicals is a far more researched and known effect, and should be eliminated while pregnant.

My wife's doctor advised that a occasional qualification on the pistol range was not harmful, provided 1) no other firing was taking place, 2) lead free ammunition was used, 3) she did not clean the pistol afterwards, and 4) normal range hygiene protocols were followed (no eating or drinking, thorough washing afterwards, changing of shoes and clothes before entering the home).

I would not criticize a woman for refraining from shooting while pregnant, nor would I condemn her for electing to shoot under controlled circumstances. As a LE rangemaster for the past 25 years, any pregnant officer who produced a doctor's advice to refrain from shooting, was excused from qualification. After her pregnancy ended, she would be make up any lost qualifications.

 

[Stopsign32v]

snub nose revolver is a great firearm for if someone in a parking lot walks up to you asking for gas money and pulls out a knife. It is a good firearm to have in a coat pocket to be at ready then have the ability to transfer to your main carry firearm. Or it is a good firearm to run up to the gas station or walk your dog around the block.

That is about the only use I have for a snub nose.

 

[101Voodoo]

Actually it was the only guy that rushed him.

Those drills are great if your in a movie. But in reality when someone is 5ft away and charges you......

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Well, Bernie Goetz managed to shoot and seriously injure 4 out of 4 assailants on a subway car using a five shot S&W Model 38 snubbie.

Doubt if any of those fellas were much more than five feet away when the shooting commenced...

 

[Arik]

Well, Bernie Goetz managed to shoot and seriously injure 4 out of 4 assailants on a subway car using a five shot S&W Model 38 snubbie.

Doubt if any of those fellas were much more than five feet away when the shooting commenced...

Awesome! Some people also manage to win the lottery more than once. He had also made a plan of how he was going to do it prior to. It wasnt in of the moment

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[Mister X]

A high capacity auto does offers some advantages in certain civilian defense scenarios, but I also think many if not most gun centric folks have a flawed perspective of civilian self-defense. They often envision shoot-out type scenarios where the stand and deliver fire they practice at the range is relevant. It could be, but that just isn't the case most of the time. The capacity of the auto could come into play, but the stats say it is extremely rare that it will. ECQ is almost always the name of the game when it comes to civilian self-defense whether it be an shootings, armed robbery, physical assault by one or more unarmed assailants, rape, car-jackings, knife or blunt object attacks. The snub revolver offers numerous advantages in these scenarios, but they may not be apparent to someone who hasn't trained in ECQC or Force on Force.

I do generally favor the auto(Glocks in my case) for home defense where I will have more warning/lead time, space and will have to make a stand.

 

[wyatte]

I have owned multiple Glocks, Sigs, H & K's etc. I still have several autos of various manufacture, but it seems to me the one gun that is with me the most is my S & W model 60-9 2 1/8 inch j-frame. I don't know why, but I just gravitate to these little revolvers. In fact, I have two 60-9's, and a 4" model 63 for good measure. I also had a 3" model 60-10, but sadly sold it. I am very fond of my autos, but my revolvers are probably my favorites. I guess I am old fashioned, but these are my preferences. wyatte

 

[shouldazagged]

With regard to multiple assailants, was it Clint Smith who taught, "Everybody gets a first helping before anybody gets seconds"?

I play the odds, which among other things are that the chances of my having to use my gun at all are extremely slight. According to the FBI studies the odds also are that if I do it will be at extremely close range, against one assailant, and will last no more than five seconds, probably less, with the expenditure of two or three rounds.

Sure, I know the times they are a-changing and there are innumerable anecdotal exceptions. I still prefer the advantages of my J-frame and will continue to play the odds.

 

[sac-gunslinger]

As always, shouldazagged speaks calmly, and speaks the truth.

I am in the grandpa cohort as he is. The years of actually carrying on the streets taught me that most of the gun-shop-banter about calibers and shootouts was simply dreamin'. Plus I had the opportunity to read real bonafide action reports and saw how the lowly, disregarded 38 Special 158 grain round nose lead load performed in real shootouts. T'ain't so bad McGee.

 

[colkid]

I have 3 smith model 60's in .357. Two are 2.5" and one is three inches.
Also several other .22,.38 and a 3" .44 692 and a Ruger Alaskan, 2.5" in .454 Casul,I believe, It
kicks hard,but shoots good.
I love them but have never tried a target at 100 yards. I will do that some day.

 

[OLDSTER]

Snub nose

I'm just another one of those OLD fashioned snubby fans

 

[crazyphil]

Did someone say something about snub nosed revolvers? Here are a few
this old great-grandpa has accumulated over the years. Left to Right:
Ruger SP101 (My EDC) .357 with Crimson Trace
Ruger LCR .38 Spl.
Charter (vintage) Undercover .38 Spl.
Charter (modern) Undercover .38 Spl
S&W Model 60 .357 Altered to DAO
S&W Model 642-1 .38 Spl. no lock
Taurus Model 85 .38 Spl. Altered to DAO
Taurus Model 94 .22
S&W Model 10 .38 Spl.
Colt's Agent .38 Spl. Altered to DAO

 

[steamloco76]

My choice of carry gun is primarily dictated by my large size which makes wearing larger than normal clothing to cover-up nearly impossible! I rotate between a Sig P938 9MM and, more often one of my S&W 642's, though my wife now carries the 2.5 inch 642-1, so by default my Performance Center 642-1 show below gets the carry nod from me. IWB when I can wear an un-tucked shirt and in one of four pocket holsters when I'm more formally dressed. (I put Gorilla tape on the backstrap of the grip because the bright silver sometimes shows in a pocket!) A Kershaw Ken Onion design Leek always rides in my pocket too.

My wife's EDC-642-1 no lock, 2.5 inch

 

[Xfuzz]

My "always" gun.
Back left pocket since my retirement 14 years
ago....S&W 37 or Model 12.
Blade isn't real tacti..cool...but been packin it or one like it
many a mile.

 

[Blackshirt]

All sidearms require a specific set of tactics if they are going to work for you when the chips are down. If you accept that your snubbie works best for breaking contact and getting to a safe place, an Airweight is superb. If you think you need a sidearm that allows you to engage multiple targets offensively, a high capacity auto is a better choice. I really use my M638 a great deal for the reason stated above, but if I am responsible for more folks than just myself I carry an auto...

 

[sac-gunslinger]

If you accept that your snubbie works best for breaking contact and getting to a safe place, an Airweight is superb. If you think you need a sidearm that allows you to engage multiple targets offensively, a high capacity auto is a better choice.

When I was instructing, it was the dawn of the Wonder 9 era (large cap mags). Many of my students wanted to go to the largest capacity gun they could find....multiple assailants, don'tcha know. They imagined that the bad guys would take turns shooting at them as they saw on television. I tried to convince them that lots of rounds would not protect them from multiple bad guys shooting at them all at once, that they would need good tactics to survive the encounter (i.e. cover and movement). Sadly, most continued to believe the television scenario of the bad guys taking turns shooting and letting my student take them out one at a time.

In other words, you will determine the outcome of such an encounter, not the number of rounds you carry.

Be safe out there.