What to do with collection when I'm gone

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Not sure if this is the right place to put this but here goes. I consider all of you my friends and need your ideas. I have a nice gun collection of pistols, rifles and shotguns mostly from the 1920's to 1980's. I was a police officer for thirty years and have two grown boys with their own family. Neither of the boys are gun tolerant and I need to know that my collection will be taken care of or sold off properly. I do have a good friend I grew up with who is also an avid collector. The collection also has an all matching 1944 German K98 I received from my Uncle, who participated in the D-Day invasion, as no one on his side liked or tolerated weapons in their home. I have the matching Springfield Garand from the same year. I would be interested to hear what my friends here think and the best way to proceed. I got divorced 10 years ago and remarried and my wife shoots and shares my love for these weapons. She has two children I would not trust with the collection. Have a safe, healthy and prosperous New Year.
Thank you all.
 
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I am kind of in the same dilemma as you. I don't have anyone in my family who would appreciate my collection. I have considered two choices 1) Give the guns a good home with a person who will care for them like they should be. 2) Have the guns sold and the money divided between my relatives.

I would gladly care for your Mauser and Garand but you should hand them over to a friend or someone you know.
 
Sell them! Keep only what you use!

I recently sold most of my collection. I kept what I use for hunting and target shooting only. Due to health issues, I decided to do this because I wanted to control what I got out of them and to whom they went. I didn't want my wife burdened with disposing of these, even though I do have 2 trusted friends that have offered to help her if something happens to me. I spent a lot of time accumulating my collection and I wanted to experience the "joy" and "sense of accomplishment" of selling them myself. I must say it was the BEST decision I have ever made.
 
There are some very good people out here; one being David Carroll. He is an expert on firearms, he is ethical and will do good for you. I wish you luck and enjoy your collection while they are still yours.

I am retired law enforcement & hope to leave some fine S&W's to my son. Have to think about my daughter though, she is a cash person.
 
I have helped my friends families after my friends passed away. It's a huge burden to take on selling other people's guns and getting what they are worth to the families. I have asked my other friends to find someone else to help them. If you can then sell what you want now, it's the only way to get a fair price.

The new year starts I am going to start selling, I won't burden my friends with getting rid of my stuff.
 
Pharman, I knew an older collector who as he began to fail did just what you describe. He "sold" me a few and had a lot of fun ensuring that his guns went where he wanted them to. After he died, I had his widow take the remaining guns to a Portland man who runs excellent auctions, "Jack the dog". He got her top dollar for the rest.
 
Ideas!

Sir, it appears you have been in service of your country and community for many years, THANK YOU!
I'm in some what of the same dilemma as you, two boys and no interest in ALL my guns! My boys do shoot but do not have the interest in collecting as I do! The first step is to make a "will" for your guns! By this I mean to leave detailed instructions in the safe as to what should be done with your collection. This will eliminate the burden on your spouse and/or family! These instructions could be to leave them with a good friend to sell on line or at shows, consign them to or sell them to a gun dealer(David Carroll is an excellent choice), and another possible choice is to send them to a large auction house( Rock island Auctions, Amoskeag Auction Co., etc.). A factor in your choice should be the amount of time to convert your collection into cash for disposition. OR, start selling them now and you will be able to see where each gun goes!
Good luck, jcelect
 
I echo what others have said and suggest you consider disposing of your asserts before others are forced to make decisions that you otherwise would not have chosen. I have similar circumstances regarding family members who do not appreciate firearms collecting as I do. Consequently I've slowly begun to pair down my collection with money going in straight into the bank. This is a Win-Win situation for me; I get some unprogramed retirement funds and also, like fishing's' "catch and release", are able to return some "trophys" to circulation for other to find :)
 
This may be hard to hear, but I believe that at some point the value of things "we" cherish is lost...if they are passed on to someone who doesn't share those values.

Rather than risk them suffering that fate I would sell them myself - NOW, while I can determine where they end up.
 
Tough call since your wife shares your interest but not her or your kids. Maybe you could see if your avid collector friend would be interested in any of them at a fair price. The K98 has to be quite valuable. I'm in the opposite position; five grandsons, all like firearms, plus two sons in law who appreciate firearms. Wife has zero interest.
 
A fellow collector told me a story of a recent widow who burned her husband's stamp collection. She was jealous of the time he spent devoted to it. The collection was worth several hundred thousand...

People do not value what we value.
 
I have two sons. I've suggested to them that when I die, they flip a coin. Whoever wins the coin toss goes first. Pick one. The other gets the next pick. Keep going until you don't want the rest. Auction them and split the money.

This was a suggestion. When I'm dead, I don't really care what happens to them.
 
Figure out what you want, and do it.

Jack the Dog sells on GunAuction. Com and gets very nice prices.

I have often thought that the NRA should offer a service. They would take the guns before or after the owner's demise. Sell at fair value, and take a 10% cut of the proceeds. If it went to an educational program it might be tax deductible.
 
I would like to help ALL of you who see this as a dilemma.Simply leave all of your guns to me. I will appreciate them, and care for them as you do. There......problem solved. You are welcome.
 
Thanks for all your good and not so good suggestions. I guess it would be best to just start selling but a hard decision for me to make.
Thank you
 
I guess it would be best to just start selling but a hard decision for me to make.
Thank you

Sir, remember that most hard decisions are the really important decisions.

I've made it clear, when I go, that my assorted firearms are to go to a good friend.
 
I'm sorry to hear about your predicament. You've been given some good suggestions. Best of luck on whatever you decide.
 
You spent the time collecting them, take the time to sell them off. Better yet, get some in an auction that you can attend and watch folks bid on your guns. Start small with 2 or 3 and see if you like it. Keep a few that you want to give to friends or someone who it will mean something to.

I'm not there yet, my kids are still in their teens, but they have picked out the ones they want and when they can safety store them, they get them.
 
This is a huge subject and full of problems. The absolute worst thing is to do nothing. I've watched a few situations where the gun guy did just that and it often turns out to be a burden. Widows seem to come in 2 flavors. One that is certain her deceased hubby was worlds smartest guy. They're sure his guns are worth more than brand new. Then they feel cheated when no one wants to pay a huge premium. Even for hunting guns that end up fairly beaten up over decades of use. Guns that are still in production and available at your local Walmart. And they're sure all of his friends are vultures when they offer up the asked for appraisal. Still as bad are the fools who offer to take the guns to a local gun show and try to sell them, often for the prices she dictates. Its how you can sit for 2 full days and accomplish nothing, and then earn her hatred for not trying hard. Its a loser for everyone.

One situation I was familiar with was a widow with a very large and nice collection. A regional gun shop came in and gave her a low ball estimate. Sure not a favor, their estimate was about $200,000. She just procrastinated, and couldn't sell just yet. Eventually David Carroll got involved. She trusted him and he sold off her collection, getting maybe in the $500,000 range. Back to the early estimate. She was advised by some well meaning fool that the estimate should be the tax basis. It meant she was sitting on a $300,000 taxable gain. Not good. Worse, she was honest and claimed it, paying the huge tax bill.

If you sell the guns yourself, you do it as a "tax friendly" transaction. Meaning it was your gun, you sold it and put the money in your pocket. Often if the widow sells the guns, you will get the IRS involved. Don't do it. Its a can of worms.

I'm retired and one of my simple pleasures is to attend gun shows with my buddies. We sit and talk (all lies), and often sell a gun or two. Over a multi year period, you can sell dozens of your old guns, often getting top dollar. Or not, we don't have to sell. Buyers just can't understand us old mule like fellers, digging our heals in and not being moved by their best bargaining tactics. But if you don't pay my price, I'll just bring the gun back again. And when I eventually croak, my wife will just call David to come pick up whats left.

I view things differently from my wife. Her solution was to just let our sons, who are into guns, pick what they want (its called cherry picking) and let David take whats left. The better solution is to let David pickup what he wants on his way to a OGCA show and leave what he doesn't want. Then the kids can take or leave whats left. They already have guns to remember ole Dad. Anything else is just gravy.
 
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