What's your thoughts on a cw permit?

Exactly. Same here in Michigan. If you hold a permit, no visit to the local police station. I'm not sure if the lgs does the background check but it makes purchasing a gun easier. Main reason I got my permit.

Dick's sporting goods does not recognize the Michigan CFL and continues to call in for a NICS check. That's the reason I refused to do business with them even before they stabbed gun owners in the back by pulling modern sporting rifles from the shelf and cancelling existing, but not filled, orders for the same.
 
Personally I believe in "constitutional" carry. No permit, no training, nothing. Strap on your gun and go.

Now, why do I feel this way? Two basic reasons 1. State CCW laws vary so much. From lots of training to virtually none and all. There has been no blood in the streets nor mass wrongful shootings by CCW holders. 2. Many states have open carry laws that require no training. North Carolina, the state I live in , is one such state.

Oh and I forgot one other reason, so I guess it's really three.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Now don't take this wrong. I believe in training and personal responsibility. If you carry, concealed or open, it is YOUR responsibility to be proficient with it's use and to know the law concerning it implementation. A one or two day class will not allow someone to retain firearms laws and proper firearms use. A CCW permit holder has to "want" to continue training in firearms use and keep updated in the firearms laws. In my opinion the CCW classes are just "feel good" and money generating requirements for concealed carry. There are laws currently on the books for misuse of a firearm. You do the crime (wrongful shooting), you do the time. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. If you die in a defensive gun use situation because of lack of training or being unfamiliar with your chosen firearm, well, it's your own fault. If you are going to carry take the personal responsibility to train and learn the law.
 
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I think that s CCW or CPL class is always a good idea for everyone. I have heard this stricter rule too, but without w permit, you are up a creek if you get caught with a gun on your person without a permit.
 
My girlfriend's co-worker was telling her not to get the permit because if she ever did have to shoot someone that the law would be stricter on her than if she didn't have the permit. His thinking is if the situation was questionable, the police could charge her easier than if she didn't have the "training".
Reminds me of my sister swearing somethings true because,"that's what they say."
 
Good grief. I don't tell people how to run a physics lab because I am not qualified and know it. I suggest one not take legal advice from anyone other than a lawyer who actually practices in the specific area of the law, for that same reason.
 

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