Which "Pump" Riot gun would you get ??

I got a Mossberg 500 12ga. with the 18.5" barrel. It'll hold 5 in the tube and that ought to be enough tall brass for most any situation.
Got it new for $329.00 and it doesn't have iron sights. I never owned a shotgun with sights.
 
Shotguns are without a doubt the best we have for stopping power. These DVDs are well worth the purchase and watch. I'm thinking of lower brass for inside the house issues. Rounds like Rio Royal Buck 7/8" brass LEO is a shoulder canon is not needed for 25 feet, I've shot many and they're hard to handle. These damn things will eat you up. Bird shot at 25 feet will absolutely blow the **** out of anything you hit and will turn it into mush. There is all kinds of ammo, practice with your choice.

http://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=1XCv0X6SqUg
 
Ithaca 37......

Finest combat shotgun ever made
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Ned
 
For my money I like the Mossberg 500 Persuader with a 7+1 capacity shooting standard 2 /34" 12 gage rounds. There are no unnecessary bells or whistles, just plain old fashioned reliability with maximum capacity in a 12 gage that will get the job done. And best of all with a little shopping it will cost very little compared to some of the other shotguns out there.

Mossberg is one of the few gun manufacturers that is actually building a better gun each year. And best of all you can get two of these for the price of many of the other pumps out there that are not as good as the Mossberg.
 
Remington, Mossberg, Ithaca, etc. Sorta like Ford, Chevy, Dodge pickups. People have their favorites. Mine is the Remington 870 Police Magnum.

Although my last project was a cheap 1187 SP that I 'customized' a bit:

 
The downside to the mdl 12 is cost, parts availability, virtually no aftermarket parts, no removable chokes,2 3/4" chambers. Lay them side by side by side, the quality of materials/fit,finish/craftsmanship is unmistakable. That said a WINGMASTER 870 is a great choice with lot's of aftermarket options. Having owned numerous M.B. mdl 500's and mavericks which can work fine, the ejector bars ( & all "metal alloy" parts) are cheap & easily bent or gauged/scratched, the plastic safety & trigger guard are not exactly robust. I'd opt for a mil spec 590 version if possible, if going the M.B. route. In the ever increasing fantasy shtf world, taking a hacksaw to a classic mdl 12, wouldn't be a biggie. PS the M.B. pistol grip is a very hard (uncomfortable) plastic, and I can't think of a better way to bend/twist the ejector bars than using that forend pistol grip thingie (aside from making a s/d gun harder to conceal), the Hogue grips/forends are much more comfortable and easier to keep/maintain a hold on.

Take a look at that old model 12 of mine a few posts back and ask yourself, Do I really need more than this for home defense or just plain getting someone's attention? :eek:

You don't need aftermarket parts or 3 & 1/2" magnum chambers. What other choke do you need other than wide *+*+* open?
 
A Burgess, Spencer or Marlin would be my top picks. :)

A 93 Winchester would also be in there too.

Just be certain to utilize brass shells, so they won't swell when wet.

Oh, are you talking about 20th century smokeless powder designs? :confused: ;) :D

I thought we were going after Lucky Ned Pepper... :D
 
This is going to sound like the "Department of Redundancy Department," but here it goes anyway.

As you can see from the many previous posts, Remington, Ithaca, and Mossberg all turn out quality shotguns that will fit the bill easily.

I have an old Remington Model 870 Wingmaster trap gun in 12 gauge. I ordered an 18-inch improved cylinder barrel from Cabela's, and I keep that one on it for home defense. Like others have said, I didn't opt for the extended mag. I feel quite comfortable having just five ready to go, but that's just my opinion.
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I also have an Ithaca Model 37 in 20 gauge. I found a used full-choke barrel for it at an old gun store years ago, cut it off to 19 inches, put the Ithaca bead back on, and have kept it in that configuration most of the time, unless I want to go hunting with it. Then I switch back to the 28-inch modified barrel. Again, no extended magazine.

Just an aside...there have been pros and cons mentioned about the 20 gauge. I've shot mine loaded with Number 3 buck and have been very pleasantly surprised...not only with pattern but also penetration.
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Another vote for the Ithaca. Your dealer can still order a brand new one for you. Check out their web site.
 
I like the 870 over the Mossberg. The Mossberg feels cheap to me and removing the bolt for me is much harder. When you look at both guns broken down the Remington design and execution seems to be double the quality of the Mossberg.
 
I bought two rust covered police turn ins. One for about $200 and the other for slightly less money. Stripped them then went at the rust with CLP and some 4/0 (0000) steel wool. Took about 4 hours for the first one and about the same for the other. buttpads were like rocks so got the rem pre fit ones and put them on both shotguns. Refinished the wood on both. One lives in my bedroom closet with #4 buckshot. These were made on the wingmaster actions and function as smooth and great trigger as my wingmaster slug gun. Frank
 
I'm issued a Mossberg 500ATP. in 12 gauge and it is everything I need. I carry "low recoil" 00 Buck and slugs.

I own a Remington 870 in 20 gauge Youth Model. It could easily serve the same purpose.
 
I like the Benelli Nova

I bought a Benelli Nova 12 gauge with 18 inch barrel and installed a Nordic 4 round extension magazine from Browenlls...gives me about 8 rounds total in the magazine. Cost me less than $400. A used Remington 870 (not an Express) is also a good choice. Mossberg makes a large number of riot guns and they seem to be fine weapons. Be careful of which magazine extension you buy, many are made of cheap plastic and are not likely to hold up very well.
 
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